Re: Some installation questions
Re: Some installation questions
- Subject: Re: Some installation questions
- From: David LeBer <email@hidden>
- Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 11:48:18 -0400
On 2010-10-28, at 11:35 AM, Janine Ohmer wrote:
> Thanks, guys.
>
> I think it's safe to assume that for both testing and developing WO one would be on a Mac. Deployment could be on Mac or Linux. I'm fine with overlooking Windows. :)
>
> The directions linked to from the front page of wocommunity.org have you use WOInstaller.jar to install WebObjects and then the turnkey installer to install everything else. This seemed to work well; I had a glitch with Frontbase and had to install it again by downloading directly from frontbase.com, but the concept seems sound. However, there's no indication of whether it installs the latest of everything as of the moment you run it, or if it's a bundle that starts to go out of date moments after it's built. It seems that the turnkey installer does more of the work for you than Golipse does. So is there some reason why Golipse is better?
Nope, no reason Golipse is better. Mike wrote a cool script, I wrapped it in a GUI for fun. It works great for me, so I use it, but I'm sure you'd say that I am atypical. ;-)
If you are looking for a "give me everything I need" install experience, the turnkey installer is probably better (assuming it is up-to-date).
>
> Is there any way to tell what version of Wonder is installed on a system? I seem to have ended up with a fairly recent version of WOLips (3.6.6207) from the turnkey installer, but no clue about Wonder.
>
> And what about the database? Frontbase is fine for trying it out, but do people still deploy with it? And if not, what do you need to use Postgres or MySQL instead?
DBs continue to be a religious discussion:
Chuck stands by Frontbase for ease of installation/use.
Lots of folks swear by Postgres.
I use MySQL, but not religiously so.
Kieran uses MySQL but I saw him flirting with Postgres the other day while no one was looking.
MySQL has a decent installer and I believe that Postgres does too, though both require you to tweak the default settings if you are going to use them in production.
>
> thanks,
>
> janine
>
> On Oct 28, 2010, at 6:08 AM, David LeBer wrote:
>
>>
>> On 2010-10-28, at 4:24 AM, ISHIMOTO Ken wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> It depends on which Platform you are.
>>>
>>> Windofs : I have no idea. Never used
>>>
>>> Mac :
>>>
>>> 1. Get Safari Extensions : http://www.webobjects.me/safari/woExtension/index.html
>>>
>>> 2. Then Click on <PastedGraphic-2.png> and download Golipse, and Install and you are ready to go.
>>
>> I need to clarify, because I've seen this repeated a couple times.
>>
>> Golipse ONLY INSTALLS THE TOOLS. It doesn't install the Webobjects or Wonder frameworks.
>>
>> Sorry to shout, but it IS kinda important.
>>
>> Since I am not a champion of keeping the WO frameworks out of the system locations, I would use the WOInstaller.jar and the instructions found here:
>>
>> <http://wiki.objectstyle.org/confluence/display/WOL/Using+WOLips+With+Multiple+Versions+of+WebObjects>
>>
>> For Wonder I would use the latest stable build from:
>>
>> <http://webobjects.mdimension.com/hudson/job/Wonder54/lastStableBuild/artifact/dist/Wonder-Frameworks.tar.gz>
>>
>>
>>
>>> 3. Yes of course you need a Database.
>>>
>>> You can download http://www.frontbase.com/ for free.
>>>
>>> Or you can use some kitty stuff like MySQL or so.
>>>
>>> Hope's that help.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2010/10/28, at 8:03, Janine Ohmer wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey all,
>>>>
>>>> I've been away for a while and as usual things have changed, particularly with regard to installing WO on a new system. I tried reading the wiki but found some contradictory info, so I'm asking here for the definitive answer (for a moment or two, anyway :).
>>>>
>>>> What's the best way to set up a system for:
>>>> - trying out WO without investing a lot of time
>>>> - setting up a development system
>>>> - setting up a deployment system
>>>>
>>>> I'm thinking of using the turnkey installer vs installing manually vs whatever other options there might be out there.
>>>>
>>>> Also, how can one tell what version of Wonder is installed on a system? I tried out the turnkey installer and can't figure out what version of Wonder it gave me.
>>>>
>>>> thanks,
>>>>
>>>> janine
>>
>> ;david
>>
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;david
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