Re: [OT] Play! Framework
Re: [OT] Play! Framework
- Subject: Re: [OT] Play! Framework
- From: Joe Little <email@hidden>
- Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 19:37:21 -0800
Well, I grok groovy more than scala, but that isn't saying much. I
just see Grails as getting everything right about Java (for the most
part) and picking what was right about Rails. Liftweb seems to make my
brain hurt, and Play is a minimal Grails without half the traction to
getting things done.
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Ray Kiddy <email@hidden> wrote:
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> On Mar 10, 2011, at 1:29 PM, Anjo Krank wrote:
>
>> Just finished glancing through a Scala book... how do you implement faulting with it? You know: Bar bar = foo.getBar(). The only thing I saw is continuation-passing, which is async by nature?
>>
>> Cheers, Anjo
>>
>
> In order to use WO stuff with Scala you basically have to remove many of the ideas behind WO first. Every access to an object in EOF is done via one enormous lock on the entire framework. If you want the benefits of using Scala, you need to go to the old idea that every editing context will need its own entirely separate EOF stack. There is an obvious mis-match in the conceptual frames here....
>
> I actually think it would be more interesting to see an implementation of WO and EOF in Clojure. It would be harder for people to wrap their heads around Clojure, but it it is a dynamic language like ObjC, and one could actually implement the concepts of WO and EOF in Clojure instead of subverting them, as one would have to do with Scala.
>
> - ray
>
>>
>> Am 10.03.2011 um 21:18 schrieb Lachlan Deck:
>>
>>> lift (for scala) is pretty cool.
>>>
>>> http://liftweb.net/
>>> http://demo.liftweb.net/
>>> http://exploring.liftweb.net/
>>>
>>> On 11/03/2011, at 3:25 AM, Joe Little wrote:
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>>>> Grails is more similar to WO than Play though -- especially
>>>> considering GORM approaches some of the niceties of EOF and Wonder
>>>> qualifiers. Both easier in the easy case, but harder when you have
>>>> multiple relationships (stuck with Hibernate criteria builders then)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 7:17 PM, Pascal Robert <email@hidden> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Le 2011-03-09 à 20:57, Mike Schrag a écrit :
>>>>>
>>>>>> of the non-wo java web frameworks, Play is the only one that ever looked interesting to me ... definitely inherits a lot of "remove the crap" from rails, which is nice. i haven't built anything with it, but it looked like a nice framework from the docs and examples.
>>>>>
>>>>> It even have a basic D2W-like system :
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.playframework.org/documentation/1.1.1/guide7
>>>>>
>>>>>> ms
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mar 9, 2011, at 8:41 PM, Pascal Robert wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I saw a demo of the Play! Framework (http://www.playframework.org) at a conference today, and I must say that it's the first time that I saw something that I really want to try out. It seems like a good mix between Ruby on Rails and WO, so I was wondering if someone else here have tried out that framework? _______________________________________________
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