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Re: Problems with current Apple X11 package
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Re: Problems with current Apple X11 package


  • Subject: Re: Problems with current Apple X11 package
  • From: Haroon Sheikh <email@hidden>
  • Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 10:19:18 -0800

In case you haven't seen it, the FAQ is here :
	http://developer.apple.com/qa/qa2001/qa1232.html

See comments below...

haroon

On Wednesday, January 29, 2003, at 08:08  PM, magenta wrote:

Cons:
- The package doesn't seem to include the Xlib header files, and I
  can't find them anywhere on the Apple or OpenDarwin sites
Please install the developer SDK package from the bottom of the page at :
http://www.apple.com/macosx/x11/


- The X desktop isn't clipped to the actual screen desktop, so my
  windows (using pwm) have their title bar obscured by the menu bar
  (very annoying)
This should be fixed in the next version. ( I cannot comment on when that will be available).

- X11.app doesn't set my path correctly (whereas XDawin.app did),
or maybe this is an issue with Jaguar vs. 10.1, but in any case it makes
my old .xinitrc fail badly
See below. It has been discussed on the mailing list a few times.


- It assumes too much about the window manager being quartz-wm, and ends up
integrating very poorly with other WMs which don't have such atrocious
accessibility issues; specifically, window raising and focus are horribly
awkward
Our main focus is quartz-wm, but we are working on making it behave better with other window managers. The problem is that there are so many of them. If you have specific bugs, please log them at http://developer.apple.com/bugreporter

It's unfortunate that the mailinglist archives have no search function for
this list, or else I'd have been able to actually see if any of these
issues have been addressed amidst all of the other issues which should be
discussed in a FAQ (one of which I also can't find for this list).
The search functionality is currently broken, and we are working on it.

So, is there a package for the header files? If so, where, if not, why not?
Yes see above

Is there a way to configure the X server to not consider the menu bar as
part of the desktop? If so, where, if not, why not?
This should be fixed in the next release. See above.


Is there a way to configure the initial path of the X server? If so, where, if not, why not?
Maybe the following link is useful
	http://developer.apple.com/qa/qa2001/qa1067.html
Although /etc/csh.login will override the path.


Is there a way to configure the window-raise policy of the X server? If
so, where, if not why not?
Not with quartz-wm in the current release. We may provide an option in the future.


Thank you.

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