Re: X Window Manager
Re: X Window Manager
- Subject: Re: X Window Manager
- From: Eric Fielding <email@hidden>
- Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2004 09:11:54 +0100
Ron,
There is also another X Window thing that used to be commonly used, and
may be what you are looking for. I believe it is officially called the X
Display Manager (as it is controlled by a program called xdm). With
this, the X Window server on a computer or simple X-terminal requests a
connection to a remote system running xdm. The remote system puts up a
login window, and after log in provides a desktop like CDE or OpenLook
via a set of X Window clients.
I am not sure, but I think that the X Window server on the local display
(e.g., your eXceed server) delegates the X Window manager task to the
remote system after you have logged in with the xdm system.
There is a man page for "xdm" on MacOSX 10.3.3, but I am not sure how to
configure it. It does not get automatically started on my Mac (standard
Apple X11 installation) as is it usually is on a Sun or SGI.
Cheers,
++Eric
Rich Cook wrote:
Let's be clearer here, maybe, without really knowing much about
eXceed. There are three things to keep distinct.
1) X Window server : the thing that actually draws stuff for you.
It is usually running on the machine on which you are actually
sitting. eXceed is probably such a beast, although I am not familiar
with it.
2) X Window clients : the things that want windows to be drawn.
E.g., xterm, CDE, anything else that might ask the X server to draw a
window.
3) X Window managers: these are just xwindow clients! They draw a
special window behind other client windows that hold the widgets for
dragging windows around, closing them, etc., but they are just X
clients. They usually run on the local machine and are started up at
the beginning of your login session. The X server must already be
running for the window manager to do anything, since it is just an X
client like everybody else. When other clients start up, they draw
windows, but the window manager notices they have started up and helps
them by adding decorations.
So IF eXceed is an X Windows server, you should be able to use any
window manager you like with it, as long as it runs on your PC and
knows how to talk the X protocol. :-)
Someone will correct me if I'm wrong, no doubt.
On Apr 2, 2004, at 7:01 PM, Marilyn Sander wrote:
Ron,
eXceed IS a window manager. The application running on the Mac is
the client.
Any CDE or OpenLook application on a Sun would be a client. They
display to
your PC, and the eXceed window manager displays their windows for them.
Whatever means you use to connect to your Sun system should work with
your
Mac. Then you just have to set the DISPLAY and start the X-windows
application.
However, if you expect to start just any old Mac application, it
would not work.
It would have to be an X-windows application.
--Marilyn
On Apr 2, 2004, at 6:41 PM, Ron Ripley wrote:
I certainly understand that eXceed is not a client, however I can
use it to connect to a Sun system and run CDE or OpenWindows. I am
mearly trying to accomplish this same task with MacOS and X11. If I
can get a window manager running on the Mac that can be displayed on
a PC running eXceed.
If X11 is properly installed (i am assuming it is), then I must have
something configured incorrectly with eXceed.
eXceed can act as a X server and a client (so to speak), I am fully
aware that it runs on PCs only.
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