Re: fink install dependencies on Darwin x11
Re: fink install dependencies on Darwin x11
- Subject: Re: fink install dependencies on Darwin x11
- From: Martin Costabel <email@hidden>
- Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 11:27:02 +0200
Aaron X wrote:
I have a favorite, simple, dual lister file manager called "Worker" that
I run on my Linux systems. It's use is very familiar to me since it is
actually a clone of a phenomenally functional file manager that I ran
on my numerous Amiga's for many years.
There is now a Fink package of Worker available for Mac X11, but it is
classified as "experimental"
You mean "unstable", I suppose? At least that's where Fink's worker
package has been for the last 4 years. It may yet make it to "stable" if
there is any positive user feedback.
and has dependencies that force the install
of one of the Darwin compatible x11 systems:
No Fink package forces the installation of xfree86 or xorg *if* you have
a complete version of Apple's X11 installed. Complete means both
packages from your system disk, X11User.pkg and X11SDK.pkg.
fink needs help picking an alternative to satisfy a virtual
dependency. The candidates:
(1) xfree86: Free X11 implementation for Darwin and Mac OS X
(2) xorg: Free X11 implementation for Darwin and Mac OS X
This happens only if your X111 installation is incomplete.
My OSeX 3.9 system is set up with the stock Apple X11 package from the
Panther install DVD. I made the mistake one time of allowing Fink to install
the xfree86 as a package dependency and it hosed my entire X11 config.
I don't think there was ever a Fink xfree86 package that was able to do
this. It will build and then refuse to install when it detects that you
already have something in /usr/X11R6.
I had to erase and re-install my entire X11 system to get it working again,
since I didn't know where to look for the problems.
The Fink mailing lists and the Fink web site, in particular the FAQ,
would be good starting points.
So the big question becomes:
Is there a way to (safely and easily!) have BOTH the Apple X11 and
the Darwin Xorg installed and functionling on my Macs?
No. You can mix some of the functionalities, like using Apple's
quartz-wm with xorg, but the bulk of the X11 code sits in /usr/X11R6 and
has to be installed either from Apple or from xfree86 or from xorg.
Some of the posts I've read on this list seem to suggest this is possible,
which is why I'm asking. However, I'm not up to doing a lot of somersaults and
handsprings just to install a slightly redundant file utility, no matter how
functional and familiar it is to me. (More the case since Apple has
disappointingly decided to drop support of the xDarwin project.)
I don't know what you mean by this, what did they drop?
Apple made one huge mistake with X11 that is making the life of many
users (like you) miserable: They decided to split 5% of the X11 code off
into a separate package that is installed with the developer tools, but
is absolutely necessary if you want to compile anything using X11. In
addition they decided to make the X11User package an optional install
which is off by default. These are sad errors of judgment that, for
ideological reasons, are not likely to be corrected.
--
Martin
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