Re: Changing xterm colors in Leopard
Re: Changing xterm colors in Leopard
- Subject: Re: Changing xterm colors in Leopard
- From: Don MacQueen <email@hidden>
- Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 14:49:58 -0800
At 2:00 PM -0800 11/9/07, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
On Nov 9, 2007, at 12:09 PM, Bill Janssen wrote:
Or, apparently, into a many-step process :-). Though, even when it
works properly, isn't it "start the app I wanted to start, then close
the random xterm that pops up"? Isn't that two-step?
In your case, perhaps, but that's because you've clearly changed
something. In a default, clean Leopard install, it's one step. You
cd to the /usr/X11/bin directory, you launch something like "xcalc",
and you get xcalc. No X server needs to be launched beforehand, no
special knowledge that it's "an X11 app" need be known, it just
works transparently (and while it may be obvious in the case of
something called "xcalc", it may not be obvious at all in the case
of some 3rd party app for, say, modeling 3D molecules where the
intended user is not necessarily even a "computer person").
Yes, if *all* interaction with the app is through the windows it puts up.
But for me, the app I want to start is a command line app. If I start
up, say Terminal.app, cd to some directory, type the command that
launches my app, all well and good, except that now my command line
is running in Terminal, but any windows that I interact with are in
X11. To use both I have to keep switching back and forth between X11
and Terminal.
Instead of just changing focus between two windows within one
environment (and with focus-follows-mouse that requires only moving
the mouse), I actually have to change between applications (requiring
keystrokes and/or clicks). And furthermore, since I like to have
background apps hidden in order to reduce window clutter, I won't
even see the X client's windows while typing in Terminal.
For effective efficient work, the command line I type in needs to be
within the X windows environment. Starting it up outside the X
windows environment makes no sense at all. For me, it's better to
just start up X11 and an xterm to begin with.
On the other hand, I only need to start X11 once, get my working
environment set up, and then I leave everything running for up to
weeks at a time, not even logging out (requiring password to get back
in from screen saver). X11 a bunch of xterm windows stay up and
running basically all the time. So having a less convenient startup
procedure is of only marginal inconvenience.
-Don
But, really, what's the *problem* that the launchd approach solves?
See above.
- Jordan
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