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Re: Eliminating the xterm
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Re: Eliminating the xterm


  • Subject: Re: Eliminating the xterm
  • From: "Ambrose Li" <email@hidden>
  • Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 12:19:33 -0500

On 10/11/2007, Ben Byer <email@hidden> wrote:
> Ironically, the reason I chose to make xterm the default app for the
> X11 launcher was specifically so that there *would* be a user-visible
> result to running X11.app (aside from the icon, of course).  We were
> worried that people would be accustomed to double-clicking on /Apps/
> Utils/X11.app in Tiger and having an xterm pop up (via the system
> xinitrc), and that if that didn't happen with Leopard, they'd think it
> was "broken".  Oh, how silly that seems now...
>
> I am a little confused, though, as to why we are trying to find a way
> to preemptively launch the X server without starting a "real
> program".  Is this to avoid the .xinitrc / .Xresources race condition?

I suppose this boils down to who uses X11 and what those people's
expectations are, and this could get very philosophical. But if X11
were to be viewed as a minor group who had used it before (maybe
on another Unix), then at least on other Unixes things other than an
xterm popping up might be the "norm" for them. My own view is that
starting the X server automatically could be "a better way" in the
sense that on a normal Unix the X server provides the GUI so it
should always be there, and the X server's automatic startup gives
the user that illusion; starting an xterm with the server breaks that
perception down and so is not wanted.

(I am also still on Tiger, so I hope what I say makes some sense.)


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-ambrose

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 >Re: Eliminating the xterm (From: "Nathaniel Gray" <email@hidden>)
 >Re: Eliminating the xterm (From: Peter Collinson <email@hidden>)
 >Re: Eliminating the xterm (From: Ben Byer <email@hidden>)

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