Re: Eliminating the xterm
Re: Eliminating the xterm
- Subject: Re: Eliminating the xterm
- From: Jeremy Huddleston <email@hidden>
- Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 13:09:38 -0800
I agree - X isn't an 'Application' per se, so much as a means of
running applications. Personally I think a better UI solution might be
to set LSUIElement to true, and not have X11 appear in the Dock at
all. Instead, perhaps a MenuBar item, where we could get basic
feedback to see if the X server is running (light grey == not
launched, dark grey == running) and have the shortcut menu to X
applications and settings available by clicking the icon. Am I alone
in thinking this might be a more consistent interface?
I don't think eliminating X11 from the dock completely is a good
idea... especially since we should have SOME dock item to represent
these windows.
I do, however, like the idea of the menu bar item... it sounds a bit
like the way OS9 Classic worked on OSX before leopard.
While X is not running, the greyed-out menubar icon could give the X11
Applications menu to allow users to pick an application to run. That
would eliminate the double X11 icon issue in the dock since people
would not need to keep /A/U/X11.app around. I don't have experience
with Menu Bar icons, but I imagine it could be done without even
touching xserver or quartz-wm.
Another option to consider would be to create ~/Applications/X11/*.app
for each item in the Applications menu. This would allow the user to
launch any of the Applications in that menu from the dock but still
wouldn't "feel right" since the windows would be in X11 rather than
the launcher (which is the case right now for /A/U/X11.app anyways).
We could probably make this "feel right" by doing some kind of clever
communication between Xquartz/quartz-wm and the launcher to allow the
launcher to keep track of what window IDs it spawned and have
subsequent clicks on the launcher raise those windows. Additionally,
closing those windows would require a signal from quartz-wm/Xquartz
back to the launcer to exit. This has some usability concerns
though. While it might work great for something like gimp or
OpenOffice, it doesn't work so well with multiple xterm windows.
Perhaps this might be an avenue to investigate once all the more
pressing bugs get sorted out.
--Jeremy
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