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Re: XCode usable?
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Re: XCode usable?


  • Subject: Re: XCode usable?
  • From: Brian Barnes <email@hidden>
  • Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 13:59:47 -0500

I can use XCode, it's usable ... it just seems that they took the coolness of the new project window and went too far with it.

Just to center this discussion a little, I think some realitively small changes would "fix" most of the complaints. Once again, IMHO. I hate to do this, because it seems like I'm acting like I know better or am just complaining, but I really do this to help :)

[1]
Make the find (and replace) just like it was in PB, and just like it IS in every other mac/windows/linux applications. Remove any find from the project tree.


I don't need to remember every find, if I want to remember it, I keep the window open. If I want too finds, I open another window. Sure, Apple's moving towards a lot more "quick finds", but even the finder still has a real find window. And the parent/child relationship is best.

[2]
Consolidate build styles, targets, and executables. Those settings are spread everywhere, and to a new user (or old user), it's nearly impossible. Both with PB and VC++ (and all the others) those settings are basically in one place. Build styles? Put them IN the target dialog even. Go back to the dialog-based editing instead of the flat editing. Collections are just confusing, and won't be necesarry in a dialog-based (ok, like PB) scheme.


[3]
I think build errors and warning should also pop up in their own window w/parent-child relationships.


I guess my major complaint is the right pane of the project window; it doesn't seem to impart any useful information. I'd almost like to see the project window as just a tree; finds, builds, etc, pop up as needed. I only use the right pane because I have to (i.e., errors + finds), otherwise I'm always clicking on the tree. That, or as I suggested before, make the left pane a FLAT list (not a tree), on click on that list to get a tree in the right pane.

I know how little time you guys had to work on this, and I know it's an evolving target and it will get a lot better. So, sorry for the ranting :(

[>] Brian
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