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Re: CVS commands
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Re: CVS commands


  • Subject: Re: CVS commands
  • From: Mark Lowe <email@hidden>
  • Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 13:10:46 +0200

We can but live in hope. Are these "improvements" to be according to the rest of the english speaking world's definition of the word? or in-line with the more liberal usage of the word that seems to be employed when authoring release notes for xcode?

If by "improvements to cvs support in xcode" is to mean that add, update into the head version across a team without having to go down to the terminal. Then that would indeed be an improvement not to mention progress.

Mark

On 10 Jun 2004, at 01:12, Toni Trujillo Vian wrote:

The Xcode engineering team is aware of your concern in this space. You can expect to see improvement in our next release.

Toni Trujillo Vian

On Jun 9, 2004, at 2:43 PM, George Warner wrote:

on 6/9/04 1:08 PM, Rob Lockstone at <email@hidden> wrote:
On Jun 9, 2004, at 11:12 AM, George Warner wrote:
Are you talking about an internal build of Xcode?

Nope. I'm using a GM 1.2.

Or are you joking again?

Nope.

The 1.2 build of Xcode, although better than 1.0 Xcode, doesn't
appear to be changed from 1.1 Xcode. Fwiw, the 1.2 release notes make
no mention of CVS. One problem I can think of off the top of my head is
that the CVS status of file is often NOT updated automatically, and in
fact, it won't even update if you select "Refresh" from the SCM menu.
You have to Get Info on the file and click over to the SCM tab. Only
then does it go and get the correct status. This is, ummm, incredibly
lame, sorry. And it certainly can't be described as "just works", imo.
Yes, I still have an open bug with ADC about this.

If I had the time (and felt like airing our dirty laundry) I could easily
top this issue with at least a half dozen others. But we worked directly
with the xcode team (by filing & regressing bugs) so by the time 1.2 shipped
all our (major) issues had been resolved.


Perhaps you're using pservers or just local repositories? Personally, I
use a remote server with ssh and public-private key pairs (null
passphrases). The null passphrases does now work (it was broken
before), but that's the last significant change/fix I recall being made
to Xcode's CVS support.

We use a xserve with ssh also. IIRC our passwords are based on our netinfo
server so I never have to deal with that anymore (not even from home access
via VPN).


Thankfully, I'm well-versed in command line cvs and CVL is a great GUI
tool. But honestly, this kind of basic cvs stuff really should "just
work" in Xcode.

The reality is that it got both better and worse because of the changes they
had to make to make the SCM part of xcode more agnostic.


The GUI definitely "needs work" but is at least usable (I wish it would
remember that I like the SCM status in column one).


If I ever need to do more than open & edit files and then commit the changes
then I usually use CVL. It's just a nicer tool.
--
Enjoy,
George Warner,
Schizophrenic Optimization Scientists
Apple Developer Technical Support (DTS)
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 >Re: CVS commands (From: George Warner <email@hidden>)
 >Re: CVS commands (From: Toni Trujillo Vian <email@hidden>)

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