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Re: XCode Rules!
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Re: XCode Rules!


  • Subject: Re: XCode Rules!
  • From: Mike Lazear <email@hidden>
  • Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 13:47:50 -0700

We can banter back and forth all we want but those who hate Xcode aren't going to change their opinion just because someone else says they love it. Nor are those that love the product going to suddenly change their opinion just because someone says they hate it.

From what I've read of this issue there is a real problem for Xcode users who have either very large files and/or many open windows. For them Xcode is unacceptable or very close to it. Other than fixing the speed issues no amount of discussion is going to change their opinion.

Likewise those that use the product in such a way to not have speed problems may be very happy with the product and don't like to read all of the Xcode bashing.

For me I have a project that is somewhere around 500,000 lines of code. However, none of my files exceed 5,000 lines of code. I like having my code in the grouped mode (all editing in one window) instead of a bunch of editing windows. For me Xcode has no IDE speed lags and compile times are acceptable. So for the most part I like Xcode.

IDEs in general all have their unique features. If you happen to like, or are very use to, a feature you hate to give that up to move to a different IDE.

The worksheets of MPW were wonderful. I liked being able to highlight a command on the worksheet and then hit enter to run the command. We saved searches, compile steps and many other commands this way. It was a nice feature that I haven't see in other IDEs.

CodeWarrior was the long standing workhorse of the Mac developer community for quite a few years and robustly handled large files and large projects. I used it for a while and it did the job but I never really fell in love with CodeWarrior. But I know those who took advantage of all it had to offer were mostly very happy with it. For those people, certain aspects of Xcode are a large step backwards.

Xcode has some unique features of its own that I like. In particular the ability to search thru existing searches, error lists and file lists. I've not seen that feature in other IDEs and find it very useful. Simple example of this is if I look at the list of errors/ warnings I can type "warn" in the search box and have it show only the warnings. I can also get more specific and type a particular warning message and see only those specific warnings.

I first started with ProjectBuilder and then moved to the very first release of Xcode. It was a mess. It croaked multiple times an hour and was not very useful. Apple has made vast improvements to the product since then and hopefully they will continue to improve it at a similar pace. If they do then hopefully these type of discussions will become unnecessary.

Mike

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