Re: [Q] is there any good replacement for the Xcode?
Re: [Q] is there any good replacement for the Xcode?
- Subject: Re: [Q] is there any good replacement for the Xcode?
- From: Michael Rice <email@hidden>
- Date: Wed, 3 May 2006 04:12:25 -0500
Both environments have their good points (I use VS 6/2003/2005 at
work and XCode at home, all for C++ development). As someone who has
been using the MS IDEs for about 12 years, I'm still much more
productive in Visual Studio than I am in XCode (I've only been using
XCode for about 1.5 years). This productivity difference is what's
keeping me from switching at work (other than convincing my IT folks
to buy me a Mac).
My personal wish list for XCode is:
1. Better support for auto complete. XCode support is very
unpredictable/unstable. An auto complete that works on one line might
fail 2 lines of code later. And C++ templates...forget about it.
Admittedly I'm spoiled by a Visual Studio add-on called VisualAssist,
which provides outstanding auto complete support and many other
useful features.
2. Improved "all-in-one" IDE layout.
3. Improved custom data formatter interface. Visual Studio has a
simple macro language that allows for easily defining custom data
formatters. It's a major pain to have to code, build, and install
special XCode plug-ins just to display some data.
4. More control over auto formatting and visualization options
(indenting, syntax highlighting, etc.)
5. Fewer crashes. There are several situations where XCode seems to
crash a lot - like closing a project window while it is connecting to
the SCM server or starting the build of one project while the build
of a dependent project is still in progress.
6. A macro recording/playback capability. Yes, I'm sure there's some
nifty AppleScript magic that could be applied, but I'd like a simple
one keystroke to record/pause/stop and one keystroke to playback.
I do like XCode and the smart folks at Apple continue to make good
improvements with every release. It will also be interesting to see
what the next major release of NetBeans brings to the table, since it
is supposed to support C/C++ in addition to Java.
On May 2, 2006, at 8:46 PM, Dmitry Markman wrote:
actually I think
that Visual Studio environment is pretty bad, clumsy
and extremely inconvenient
at least for me (after years and years programming with CodeWarrior
and now XCode)
XCode is just fine (it could be much better of course)
but for free product it's extremely good
but again it's just me
with XCode you can
maintain variable to watch
display local/auto variables
you can see class list too
you can find declaration in a second
(in fact I created XCode project just for that purpose, I don't
build my library on Macintosh
I do it on linux computer, but if I want to find definition I use
XCode)
I have VC++(2003) project for the same library
so I can compare and I can say it's incomparable (again at least
for me)
also you can work with gdb just fine
it's much faster then with any GUI
On May 2, 2006, at 4:54 PM, JongAm Park wrote:
The Visual Studio environment is very good. I like the way you can
add and maintain variables to watches, its display of local/auto
variables, class list, finding definition/declaration of
variables, checking variables' types, and so on. The Xcode is not
polished clearly yet, IMHO.
Dmitry Markman
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