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Re: [Q] is there any good replacement for the Xcode?
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Re: [Q] is there any good replacement for the Xcode?


  • Subject: Re: [Q] is there any good replacement for the Xcode?
  • From: Michael Rice <email@hidden>
  • Date: Wed, 3 May 2006 04:12:25 -0500

Both environments have their good points (I use VS 6/2003/2005 at work and XCode at home, all for C++ development). As someone who has been using the MS IDEs for about 12 years, I'm still much more productive in Visual Studio than I am in XCode (I've only been using XCode for about 1.5 years). This productivity difference is what's keeping me from switching at work (other than convincing my IT folks to buy me a Mac).

My personal wish list for XCode is:
1. Better support for auto complete. XCode support is very unpredictable/unstable. An auto complete that works on one line might fail 2 lines of code later. And C++ templates...forget about it. Admittedly I'm spoiled by a Visual Studio add-on called VisualAssist, which provides outstanding auto complete support and many other useful features.
2. Improved "all-in-one" IDE layout.
3. Improved custom data formatter interface. Visual Studio has a simple macro language that allows for easily defining custom data formatters. It's a major pain to have to code, build, and install special XCode plug-ins just to display some data.
4. More control over auto formatting and visualization options (indenting, syntax highlighting, etc.)
5. Fewer crashes. There are several situations where XCode seems to crash a lot - like closing a project window while it is connecting to the SCM server or starting the build of one project while the build of a dependent project is still in progress.
6. A macro recording/playback capability. Yes, I'm sure there's some nifty AppleScript magic that could be applied, but I'd like a simple one keystroke to record/pause/stop and one keystroke to playback.


I do like XCode and the smart folks at Apple continue to make good improvements with every release. It will also be interesting to see what the next major release of NetBeans brings to the table, since it is supposed to support C/C++ in addition to Java.


On May 2, 2006, at 8:46 PM, Dmitry Markman wrote:

actually I think
that Visual Studio environment is pretty bad, clumsy
and extremely inconvenient
at least for me (after years and years programming with CodeWarrior and now XCode)


XCode is just fine (it could be much better of course)
but for free product it's extremely good

but again it's just me

with XCode you can
maintain variable to watch
display local/auto variables
you can see class list too
you can find declaration in a second
(in fact I created XCode project just for that purpose, I don't build my library on Macintosh
I do it on linux computer, but if I want to find definition I use XCode)
I have VC++(2003) project for the same library
so I can compare and I can say it's incomparable (again at least for me)


also you can work with gdb just fine
it's much faster then with any GUI


On May 2, 2006, at 4:54 PM, JongAm Park wrote:

The Visual Studio environment is very good. I like the way you can add and maintain variables to watches, its display of local/auto variables, class list, finding definition/declaration of variables, checking variables' types, and so on. The Xcode is not polished clearly yet, IMHO.

Dmitry Markman

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