Re: Apple's Tools Strategy [was: Accessing function definitions Radar]
Re: Apple's Tools Strategy [was: Accessing function definitions Radar]
- Subject: Re: Apple's Tools Strategy [was: Accessing function definitions Radar]
- From: Laurence Harris <email@hidden>
- Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 01:50:26 -0400
I'm not going to respond to individual points because this is just
arrogant rambling from someone who almost sounds like he's stoned. I
will say, however, that using a Mac to write software doesn't make
you a developer of Mac software or the author of the kind of software
that motivated Mac users to choose the Mac. That takes a different
kind of knowledge and depth of understanding than it does to spout
off how much experience you have on completely different platforms.
I've played with more than one application that someone created by
wrapping Cocoa around some Unix application and I can tell right away
the guy doesn't understand how to write a real Mac application.
Worse, he probably doesn't have enough sense to even realize what he
doesn't know.
Larry
On Oct 28, 2006, at 4:02 PM, David Walters wrote:
On 29/10/2006, at 4:30 AM, Laurence Harris wrote:
On Oct 28, 2006, at 12:56 PM, David Walters wrote:
EVERY SINGLE THING I missed about VS was actually tucked away in
Xcode. I was up and running with it in MINUTES, there's a
testament to the Mac people.
What, that they make Windows VS developers comfortable in Xcode?
Debug Visualisers and Intelli$ense, add some sort of schema builder
for showing the boss what the data warehouse looks like, and it's
all over.
Well, Anjuta is really lovely, I was able to port to Gnome with
Glade in about a week, last month, when I built a linux box (with
ubuntu) to run a port on (that was with un-staticising all my
initialisation and other m$ c++ bits and pieces that needed to go)
- I'd say that I represent intel developers.
(and when millions of voices whispered, "did you say gcc4 with auto
mp?" - i was one of them)
With all due respect, it sounds like you have little to no
experience as a Mac developer.
Not for long, I turned off my pc. Plenty of experience as an Intel
developer though. You know, gcc/subversion? Or X11/Gnome/Glade?
What about apache/java/php, perl/regex, it's a big list... and
there's so many of us. Look at widgets, what they mean when every
kid who's into this stuff learns html/javascript as a first language.
such people and their products are not driving force behind the
Mac's success,
We are now. We all have IPods too you know. CodeWarrior-what? All
of that is gone. Hope you know XML.
If we don't provide state of the art, compelling products whenever
we can the Mac will cease to be compelling as a platform,
I agree with this bit.
and the kind of products you describe do not sound like products
that will attract people to the Mac from other platforms.
Larry
I have spent a lot of time describing Xcode, and I've heard how you
don't like it, but Dude - these are the world's most stunningly
sexy linux boxes, they can do ANYTHING!! And now they are so cheap
it's raining macs. And they never crash. This is an upgrade-
tsunami. This is the revolution! And *nix won!
And to re-iterate, we all love the standard library, and we all
love mouse-wavability. Visualisers and Intelli$ense - that's all it
takes, and we're hooked (well I'm hooked already).
To you, Code-Warrior, at sea level, it is just a big wave. You can
swim.
From the Intel Ivory Tower, from the Visual Studio, we see the
inevitability.
You can drive an M$ sql server over rdp with a mac. Or a TS
desktop... what was that? Enterprise mySQL? Open Source, you say?
On an operating system developed by scientists, at a university for
forty odd years? That BSD?
DISSOLVE.
1c. A HILLTOP IN THE WASTELAND. DAY.
A warrior, dressed in leather and steel, stands on a
hill crest. This is MAX. Behind him is a strange road
vehicle: two engines and a seat mounted on a chassis.
NARRATOR V/O
But, most of all, I remember the
courage of a stranger, a road
warrior called Max. To understand
who he was you must go back to the
last days of the old world ...
FADE TO BLACK.
;)
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