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Re: Any way to get tiny "clear console" button back?
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Re: Any way to get tiny "clear console" button back?


  • Subject: Re: Any way to get tiny "clear console" button back?
  • From: Chris Espinosa <email@hidden>
  • Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 12:52:05 -0700


On Oct 31, 2007, at 12:03 PM, Kyle Sluder wrote:

That's precisely why I think menu alternates are a very bad idea.
Since the toolbar is taking up precious space, and can be turned off
at any time, I expect the menu bar to hold every action I can perform
at any given moment.  The fact that there's no indication that if I
hold down a certain arcane combination of modifier keys I *might* just
find the functionality I'm looking for is really disconcerting to me.
The new Help menu goes some ways to alleviating this problem, but I
still think it would be nice to have some sort of visual indication
that a menu item has alternates.

We work very hard to balance the accessable power for the expert with clear orientation and simplicity for the new Xcode user. It had become very clear that Xcode had a daunting number of confusing and obscure menu items, and we eliminated about 20% of them in Xcode 3.0.


We also wish that the Mac OS X alternate menu mechanism had better techniques for discoverability (other than popping the menu and cycling through all 8 combinations of metakeys) and there is a longstanding request to the HI group that we've dogpiled on. We hope this can be resolved to the benefit of all applications that have more functionality than fits comfortably in 200+ menu items.

Chris
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