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Multiple windows (was Re: Xcode - An Apple Embarrassment)


  • Subject: Multiple windows (was Re: Xcode - An Apple Embarrassment)
  • From: Brad Oliver <email@hidden>
  • Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2012 07:01:15 -0700

On Mar 1, 2012, at 5:04 AM, email@hidden wrote:

> Am 29.02.2012 um 21:33 schrieb Peter Teeson:
>
>> This is one of the few grown up responses on this topic. I started programming more than 40 years ago and very soon learned to ask "What am I doing wrong here and why?" when the inevitable unexpected occurred.
>>
>> Many of the complaints about the single window metaphor may be coming from programmers who only have a single monitor such as a laptop (but perhaps I'm wrong here.) A laptop is OK on a plane or off site. But I personally would not be able to be really productive unless I had a desktop system and all the peripherals that go with it. YMMV.
>
> My Mileage varies indeeed. I code quite happily on single-monitor setups in Xc4s single-window layout. On my dual-monitor setup, usually Xcode Windows stay on one screen, the other is reserved for other stuff

I have a dual-monitor setup that I use for my day-to-day work programming games. The single-window metaphor in Xcode is singularly annoying for this task. Consider:

My main window has the Xcode 4 "all-in-one" window, which I can tolerate when I'm not debugging. When I am debugging, I want the debugger console output on my second window (sans toolbar and project tree panes), as I need to see the game window on my main display.

I can actually split the debugger output into a second window in Xcode 4 and put it on my second monitor, but that causes Xcode deep confusion. If I quit and restart Xcode 4, it will open that second debugger console window (again sans toolbar or any other widgets) on my main display, and *not* open my actual main window that was on the main monitor, so I'm constantly having to manipulate window state each time I launch Xcode 4.

Worse, sometimes Xcode wants to try and open source windows in that second "debugger console output" window, and they stay hidden where I can't see them. Only after watching nothing happen do I guess at what Xcode 4 has done.

I'm glad that Xcode 4 -- unlike the developer previews -- allows us to open more than 1 window, but clearly this has been not well-tested.

--
Brad Oliver
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