Re: printing color targets in InDesign CS3
Re: printing color targets in InDesign CS3
- Subject: Re: printing color targets in InDesign CS3
- From: Roger Breton <email@hidden>
- Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:13:02 -0500
Eric,
> It seems that InDesign CS3 is naughty and produces dark prints using a
> custom printer profile created with Photoshop CS3.
"Custom printer profile created with Photoshop CS3"?
Are you talking about the old, pre-ICC, kind of Photoshop 5 and below type
of color separation technology? I didn't even know you could use those in
InDesign but I'll admit I would have never even begin to consider using
those in InDesign.
> see: http://www.adobeforums.com/webx?14@@.3bc4a132/0
> The recommendation I've read is to produce a new profile made from InDesign.
"A new profile *made* from InDesign"? Please excuse my ignorance but is
there such a thing as some facilities within InDesign?
> I'm having problems figuring out how to print out the untagged colour
> targets. I'm pretty confused having just re-read Real World Color Management
> on the subject.
I think both Doyle and Marco's comments apply to your situation. You have
the choice of printing with CMS=off, the way InDesign up to v2 used to print
or, the more "modern" way, with CMS=on but make sure to "Leave color
unchanged" in the print dialog box.
> There doesn't seem to be a way to turn off color management in
> InDesign!!???!!! I'm not getting an option to "let the printer handle color
> management" in the print dialogue either. RWCM says that InDesign converts
> any untagged image to the document's colour space. So how to turn that off?
As a rule, when the Document profile = Printer profile then no conversion
will take place for any placed untagged elements and native CMYK elements.
> If I go into Color Settings in ID CS3 the only option that has OFF in it is
> to go into the Color Management Policies and choose for RGB:OFF (I'm making
> a profile for an inkjet).
So you are printing to an inkjet printer? Most likely in RGB mode?
Unknowingly getting an CMYK to RGB and again from RGB to CMYK conversion on
your way to the printer.
Now, there is a lingering printing issue that sets InDesign apart from both
Photoshop and Illustrator is this RGB printing mode. The conversion just
does not happen the same way. So, Eric, you want to print to your RGB inkjet
printer from InDesign? You're going to have to accept that the color output
will not be the same -- alas. The way InDesign writes the printer driver in
RGB is not the same as the way Photoshop and Illustrator do it. Not the
same. Period. And the InDesign's engineers are not in a hurry to rectify
that -- no more than they are in a hurry to offer native Device Link
Profiles support in Photoshop or add a simple LCh readout in Photoshop's
Info palette :( We can wait until the cows come home!
> Eric Perlberg
Roger Breton
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