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Re: Changing the name of a file in the temporary items folder
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Re: Changing the name of a file in the temporary items folder


  • Subject: Re: Changing the name of a file in the temporary items folder
  • From: Michelle Steiner <email@hidden>
  • Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 09:49:33 -0700

On Dec 10, 2007, at 9:37 AM, Skeeve wrote:

It isn't. Of course you can move it to the trash. But then it's not deleted it's just in the trash.

So? They didn't create it; they didn't even know it existed, so what is the problem?

They see: "Oops! There is something in my trash I always keep empty and clean. Where does it come from?"

Oh, I see; they keep a constant eye on the trash icon to see whether it bulges. Maybe they should be more concerned with whatever they're doing than in worrying about the state of their trash.


You shouldn't surprise the user.

Even worse: Some users might have moved some things to trash and by the time they noticed, your code already emptied the trash.

What is bad about that? The purpose of the trash is to be emptied.

There are users out there who don't enpty the trash every day. So don't think that everyone handles it as you do. After all: The trash keeps files until the user empties it. So I wouldn't like a program to empty it without being asked...

It is a trash bin, not a holding bin. They are not using it for its intended purpose.


And they are just the opposite of the first type of person you mentioned.

Yes, that is a minor problem, but it certainly is not the mountain you're trying to make it into.

Hmmm... I didn't. At least I'm not feeling I did. There were posts telling me that there are workarounds and I just told them why *I think* those are no true solutions *to me*.

By piling on more artificial constraints to the original constraint, which appears to most of us to be artificial to begin with.


You have been given a number of alternatives that satisfy your original complaint (which seems to have artificial constraints at the outset), but you have chosen to add more and more constraints as each is addressed.

No. The constraints were given right at the start.

And, as I and others have mentioned, they appear to be artificial. Perhaps if you explained why those constraints exist, it would help us understand.


All myother objections were to side effects the workarounds have and which I don't like.


And to me--and apparently to others--they appear nit picky and artificial.

I predict that if you continue with this attitude, you will find fewer and fewer people who will be willing to help you.

To be honest: There is not much help here yet :-(

Oh, there's plenty of help here. The fact that you do not like the answers does not mean that they aren't valid. I, and at least some of the other contributers here, agree with you that move and duplicate should allow renaming on the fly, so that's not the issue. And I disagree with the person (I'm too lazy to look up who wrote it) that because the UI of the Finder does not allow deletion of a file without putting it in the trash, Applescript should not be able to do it either. I think that it should be added to System Events.


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I am only one, but still I am one. I cannot do everything, but still I can do something; and because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do something I can do. --Edward Everett Hale



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