Re: Cocoa Java futures, NDA's etc
Re: Cocoa Java futures, NDA's etc
- Subject: Re: Cocoa Java futures, NDA's etc
- From: Brian Hannan <email@hidden>
- Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 11:54:16 -0700
On Oct 27, 2004, at 3:43 AM, Finlay Dobbie wrote:
Considering Tiger isn't even going to be out until some way into next
year, how long can you wait until targetting it?
Right. If I was planning to have a Tiger app rolling the day Tiger was
released, I'd fork out the cash. I'm more concerned right now on
whether Apple will do what it appears to be thinking, shoving
Cocoa-Java into legacy.
Considering all the "big" apps from third parties I see -- MS Office,
Adobe Creative Suite -- are Carbon anyway. And people building MacOS X
specific apps with lots of OpenStep history/legacy code -- or from
scratch -- are happy with learning Objective-C, so much the less it is
for Cocoa-Java.
The Java Bridge certainly seems to have been created because Apple (or
more likely NeXT) suddenly got this idea that WebObjects had to be
Java to make it more marketable to the enterprise crowd.
I do remember Apple mentioning, I and believe delaying 10.0, because
they wanted to make sure App Kit and Foundation were available in Java.
Thinking app developers would be terrified of learning Objective-C.
That didn't happen.
Anyway, my considered opinion based on publicly available information
is that the Java bridge isn't worth pursuing.
The terror of it all is if you have a back-end entirely in Java and
want to give a MacOS X user the best UI experience, Cocoa-Java was
great way to do it. I've got Swing client versions for Windows/Linux
in dev, since Swing is designed to look best on Windows anyways. With
no Java bridge, forget the extra effort. It's Swing for MacOS X as
well. Too bad.
--
Brian Hannan
Chief Admiral of Uncle Jam's Navy
"One nation under a groove, gettin' down just for the FUNK of it."
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