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Re: New looks [not] replacing Metal?
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Re: New looks [not] replacing Metal?


  • Subject: Re: New looks [not] replacing Metal?
  • From: Michael Ströck <email@hidden>
  • Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 19:11:46 +0200


Am 29.07.2005 um 17:01 schrieb Sean McBride:

On 2005-07-29 13:05, Michael Ströck said:

I agree. In general, though, I think that brushed metal and the
unified look make much more sense. In "traditional" windows, the
space between toolbar buttons is just that -- empty and useless space
that can not even be used for dragging the window around. The
distiction between titlebar and toolbar is rather arbitrary and
doesn't really add anything.


On the contrary, the space is not useless at all. It provides
predictability. With the unified look it's much harder to know what
your click will do. Most of the problem is with the toolbar itself
though, clicks between items, clicks on item icons vs item text, clicks
in items with small icons but big labels. With the regular look, the
toolbar is both visually and behaviourally distinct, and that's helpful
to the user.

That's a problem with click activation regions extending to where they shouldn't. You are right to complain about that, although until you pointed it out I never even noticed. In and of itself I still maintain the unified look is a good idea if used in a sane manner and with icons that don't make you go blind (Mail, I'm looking at you.).


Even in XCode, I think it's not much of a problem. When I want to drag something I just move the mouse in the general directon of a big _empty_ space in the toolbar, which is much easier to do than hitting the 22 pixels I had with the normal look. Nobody is going to start dragging windows around by the very small spaces between icons.

... Which of course is not to say that the picture you linked to is not a sloppily designed UI ...
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