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Re: measuring double trouble
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Re: measuring double trouble


  • Subject: Re: measuring double trouble
  • From: Joel <email@hidden>
  • Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 17:43:54 -0600

on 3/4/2001 11:17, Al Salam Publishing House at email@hidden
wrote:

The manual
states that liniarzation files can be modified for use with other custom made
profiles but tells very little how this modification is done. Is there a
target that can be printed out for each color and then read back in with a
> measureing device such as the X-Rite DTP-22?...


Neil Snape wrote:
In theory you can linearize before profiling but so far you have to print
out a target and reduce your inks by hand until there is graduations in all
the tones up until black.

Not the Best DE question, but a question on linearizing and ink limits:

Reducing individual ink channels? Density?

Currently I print a density swatch 21 steps in %5 increments. I print an ink limit swatch 20 steps in %5 increments. Both using ColorProfiler in Scanvec-Amiable's PhotoPrintServer v2.5. The same software which wrote the canned profiles provided with RIPS for the Roland HiFi/Cammjet printers and line of media promoted by Roland.

On matte canvas and a number of watercolor papers (printer manufacturer endorsed) if I choose ink limits visually on the bleeding edges theory (put forward by the Scanvec-Amiable manual) saturation, brightness and color accuracy diminishes considerably. Also if I choose anything less than 0 ink limit on any channels, regardless of any or no density alterations, I begin to loose color accuracy in the form of heavy cyans/blues shifting to magenta tints, and light greens diminishing to cyan/blue tints. When I try to linearize and characterize for double printing on canvas or art paper the problem increases exponentially.

In turn, when I print my density swatch, measure the table in Tdensities, spreadsheet the numbers, choose my Tvalues on the basis of maximum density before the primary in each ink channel begins to diminish, choose my ink limits on this basis and then print either ink or density swatch with the ink limits applied, the swatches visually look appealing in some channels while others have no punch at all. Each channel (CMYKOG) has a different peak density. The ink limit primaries (cmykog) are simple enough percentages to figure out. The M+Y, C+Y, C+M, C+M+Y, two ink, and three ink percentages have me wondering. (There was no manual with my upgrade from 2 to 2.5)

So, on the linearization question, does anyone have any hard and true formulae for picking ink limits and densities for materials which really soak up the ink? Is it really a visual guessing game when it comes to ink limits? Densities? Or does the old densitometer vcmy actually have a function that maybe I'm missing?

I'd prefer a technical solution if there is one. Is there one?
--
joel johnstone - designtype
Winnipeg Manitoba Canada
email: work: email@hidden
color geek in residence, reality notwithstanding


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