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Re: Panther, sRGB, web browsers
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Re: Panther, sRGB, web browsers


  • Subject: Re: Panther, sRGB, web browsers
  • From: Uli Zappe <email@hidden>
  • Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 20:46:39 +0100

Am 15.12.2003 um 17:43 schrieb Chris Murphy:

Aha. Yes this is confusing. You are seeing the effect of calibration, not the profile itself. Displays are calibrated through the adjustment of a set of tables in the video card. The intent of it is to set white point and gray balance primarily. And the Display Calibrator assumes that you are following its instructions, and have ended up with a well behaved monitor. So when it builds the profile, it includes the calibration information for the video card, and then builds the characterization of the monitor (now well behaved) to the profile as well.

So technically we have a shotgun wedding between calibration and characterization when it comes to display profiles. The characterization portion is what's involved in defining the actual primaries, tone response, white point, etc. of your display, and is the only portion used by ColorSync. The display manager (if it's still called that on OS X), grabs only the calibration data when you log in, and applies that to the video card. This affects things system wide, and is not a ColorSync induced conversion, but rather data being passed through, effectively, a set of curves in the video card.

Please excuse my slow-wittedness at this point, but once the display is "well behaved" thanks to "calibration", for what else do individual applications (or whatever) possibly need an additional ColorSync "characterization" display profile? One would assume that "well behaved" means "standardized" in some way, so individual apps could simply assume that the display they send their output to conforms to these standards, and that that would be all there is about color management of displays.

Or is it something like: even "well behaved" displays differ from each other in their abilities (color range etc.), and the ColorSync profile informs apps that want to know about these capabilities (for whatever reason)?

Either way something isn't quite right. I'd need to see a bunch of different PostScript files generated by the system with different settings, and then also print a bunch of tests to the printer in order to figure it all out though.

Of course you can't do that from afar (and you've already helped a lot - thanks!!).

I've emailed HP support with this question. If and when I receive an insightful answer, I will keep you informed.

It seems to be a more general HP (at least) issue, because as Chris Brown <email@hidden> wrote, he encounters exactly the same problem with his Color LaserJet 5/5M.

Welcome to the color management club!

Amazon.de just informed me they shipped my copy of your book, so starting tomorrow I'll be smart! 8-)

Bye
Uli
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