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Re: Subject: Commercial Printers and Color Management
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Re: Subject: Commercial Printers and Color Management


  • Subject: Re: Subject: Commercial Printers and Color Management
  • From: gariba <email@hidden>
  • Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:40:23 -0300

A control process target wouldn't help on those cases?
You could measure and say if it is your or them simulation wrong...
The Ugra-Fogra media wedge, perhaps?
Or I'm wrong?
On Monday, October 6, 2003, at 05:11 PM, Roger Breton wrote:

Isn't it amazing that printers can no longer match the proofs they
could match two years ago. By using "standard"
color spaces or proofing systems one can faithfully print legacy and
separations done for a "standard" CMYK space. In design and prepress on
does not always no where the final job will be printing!

The computer to plate revolution is supposed to drive costs down, not
up. The computer to plate manufacturers and color management
professionals need to lead printers into using "dot gain managers" and
ICC profiles. In most cases, the printer needs to simply manage dot
gain in their RIP to get their plates back to where they were when they
used conventional work flows. By doing so. printers can be more price
competitive and they can capture more work. By not doing so, they will
drive customers away with poor quality or high prices.

I am in a similar situation with a commercial sheetfed printer where the
AGFA Sherpa inkjet proofs don't match up my simulation of their press! Which
do I believe : their proof or my proofs? It's tough on nerves. I've asked
them to look into where the discrepancy could come from but I doubt they
will have an answer and I am going to have to take a leap of faith. I hate
that. Because I could be wrong. Then I am going to have to pay for my
mistakes. But if I'm right then I'll have proove that their so-called custom
ICC profile they use in their RIP to simulate their press output is to be
taken with a grain of salt.


Tough times.

Regards,

Roger Breton | Laval, Canada | email@hidden
http://pages.infinit.net/graxx
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