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Re: The MESS at the PRESS campaign
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Re: The MESS at the PRESS campaign


  • Subject: Re: The MESS at the PRESS campaign
  • From: Chris Murphy <email@hidden>
  • Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2004 01:35:39 -0700

On Apr 4, 2004, at 1:01 AM, Henrik Holmegaard wrote:

Chris Murphy <email@hidden> writes :

>Since you don't print here, I don't know why you even
>care what is preferred on this side of the pond.

I understand what you are saying, but the List is not read by U.S. citizens only.

Henrik, there are enough tangents in your posts these days to take me from Boulder to London to Johannesburg, with a side stop at Titan to witness the methane rains.

With the ability to capture our own colors, to correct our own colors, and to proof our own colors in the studio, we have won nothing. The rest of the world has sold its junked its proprietary scanners and bought proprietary proofing systems instead.

So? They usually work better, or at least are far easier to set up. Besides they are a dead end in the workflow in that when something goes to get proofed all you care about is the hard copy, not the resulting transformed digital files.


The path to the press is still blocked for professional photography, no longer by having to deliver a viewable graphic in the form of a transparency to a color separator for scanning and storage on a remote server, but by having to struggle with proprietary proofs.

I don't follow the logic here.

A number of companies have been campaigning on behalf of proprietary 4D transforms. These companies have been campaigning on dangerous ground, because they do not have and never have had a technically well-founded argument.

A lot of people do not like 100% yellow in a document to get proofed with 3% cyan dots in it, Henrik. That's exactly what conventional ICC-based proofing does unless DeviceLinks are used, specifically built to maintain channel purity. 100%K only gets converted to the right LAB values, but also has other colorants in it. Black only drop shadows have the right tone, but they are now four color.

Many if not most ICC based proofing solutions are the victim of less than ideal implementation but it's not fair to criticize people in the market who want something better and end up deciding on non-ICC solutions. I care about the best results more than interoperability and more than religious faith in the ICC.

Chris Murphy
Color Remedies (TM)
www.colorremedies.com/realworldcolor
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Co-author "Real World Color Management"
Published by PeachPit Press (ISBN 0-201-77340-6)
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