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Re: use of sRGB as a default
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Re: use of sRGB as a default


  • Subject: Re: use of sRGB as a default
  • From: "Dennis W. Manasco" <email@hidden>
  • Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 05:29:56 -0500

John,

Please excuse my impertinence, but ...

At 1:49 pm -0700 6/17/04, John Zimmerer wrote:

The goal is to make sure each image's color characteristics are defined by an embedded profile, so "untagged data" no longer exists.

This is a noble goal, but it doesn't change the fact that most of us are inundated with untagged files daily; they come from the web, from digital cameras and numerous other sources.

A high percentage of those files actually WERE created in, or converted to, sRGB.


At 2:15 pm -0700 6/17/04, John Zimmerer wrote:

Now about sRGB as a default color space.

We understand that...

We understand that...

We realize that...

We understand sRGB as a color space has severe limitations....

Given all of the above, Apple does not believe that sRGB is an appropriate choice for a default RGB color space for untagged images.


I personally despise sRGB as a working space; it's limits are egregiously obvious when you try to make quality prints using it.

That doesn't mean that I can stick my head in the sand and say it doesn't exist when I have to work with a preponderancy of files that were patently created in, or converted to, sRGB but are untagged.

Sure, I can mostly solve the problem by blasting sRGB tags onto untagged images and then putting them into a tagged workflow, but that doesn't do anything for my users who are getting magenta monstrosities when they print from Apple apps like Safari or Preview.

sRGB is a truly abysmal standard, but that doesn't mean that those of us out in the real world don't have to deal with it.

If Apple is going to have any future cred in color it is going to have to make it easy for the naive user to produce quality prints from any program: That means that untagged web and digicam photos print spot-on. The only way I can see to do that is to embrace sRGB for untagged images as the default and let advanced users change the preference.

By the way: How could anyone hired to program Mac OS X color issues be so unaware of color-management as to assign the monitor profile as the source?


-=-Dennis
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