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Re: Big problems using Bill Atkinssons new Eye-1 profiles
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Re: Big problems using Bill Atkinssons new Eye-1 profiles


  • Subject: Re: Big problems using Bill Atkinssons new Eye-1 profiles
  • From: bruce fraser <email@hidden>
  • Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 18:38:06 -0800

For what it's worth, I've foound that with ProfileMaker, I get a somewhat more robust profile for Epsons with Ultrachrome inks and Enhanced Matte paper using a target of around 2500 patches than I do using the TC 918. But the differences are quite subtle. With Monaco Profiler, I get a noticably better profile using their larger target (1700-some patches) than I do using either of the smaller ones. But I wouldn't like to have to prove the case to a skeptic!

Bruce

At 10:50 AM -0500 2/12/06, Jim Rich wrote:
Bruce,

What's the hard scientific definition of "better result"?

You know say comparing a 918 patch count to a +4000 patch count on different medias and then compare the delta e values. And the of course look at the prints.

 It takes longer to measure a higher patch count target, and a little
 longer to calculate the profile. There doesn't seem to be any
 performance hit in using the profile.

 There's an inherent trade-off between accuracy (lots of patches) and
 smoothness (lots of interpolation). The trade-off is different for
 different devices (and in some cases, for different papers on the
 same device).

 You can look at average, maximum and minimum delta-e for some
 population of colors, but the results will always depend on the
 population of colors you choose. Unfortunately, such evidence, while
 hard and scientific, tells you bugger-all about the profile's
 efficacy in reproducing actual work, like (for example) photographic
 images.


Your point here is one of this things I was getting at. We agree.

Jim Rich


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