Re: Making SWOP TR001 compliant proofs
Re: Making SWOP TR001 compliant proofs
- Subject: Re: Making SWOP TR001 compliant proofs
- From: "Chris McFarling" <email@hidden>
- Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 20:39:28 -0400
So it's possible for two vendors to submit a proof to a customer with each
claiming that their proof is SWOP compliant, although each of the proofs may
be significantly different visually?
So then it seems that the only true measuring stick, for now, is TR001.
Instead of just proofing to "SWOP standards", in a scenario where two
vendor's proofs need to match as close as possible for a single client, they
should instead be proofing to the TR001 standard. Does that seem reasonable?
Then following that logic, I would need to color manage the output to my
Finalproof in order to achive a TR001 match. Simply adjusting the device
based on the ADS would not be sufficent.
Am I right thinking in all of this?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Terry Wyse" <email@hidden>
To: "Chris McFarling" <email@hidden>
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 3:12 PM
Subject: Re: Making SWOP TR001 compliant proofs
> As Rick alluded to, "SWOP" and "TR001" are not necessarily one in the
> same.
>
> You could reasonably say that if your dataset matches the TR001
> dataset within a delta e or 2 (I'm making that part up but 2 dE
> average seems reasonable) that you are "SWOP" complaint.
>
> But what you can't say that if you're printing to SWOP guidelines
> that you're necessarily matching the TR001 dataset. SWOP is basically
> density and TVI guidelines but is less about colorimetry (there's
> SOME colorimetry in there but not much). TR001 is all about colorimetry.
>
> As far as the ADS data is concerned, if you follow the ADS, about all
> you can say is that your proof is SWOP-compliant. It is not likely to
> match TR001 unless you're just plain lucky.
>
> Terry
>
>
>
> On May 23, 2006, at 2:24 PM, Chris McFarling wrote:
>
> > I have the ADS for the Finalproof. All of the info included in it
> > is based
> > on 60# Monterey Gloss stock. I believe that matches the stock used
> > when the
> > SWOP org creted the SWOP specs to begin with, along with the TR001
> > dataset .
> > So if I were to follow the ADS for our Finalproof exactly, then I
> > should end
> > up with a SWOP compliant proof that conforms to the TR001 dataset
> > as well.
> > So in that sense, it seems to me that they are one in the same.
> >
> > So I guess the question is, is the paper, or is the paper not, part
> > of th
> > equation when determining conformance?
> >
> > If they have said that they want TR001 compliant proofs, and if I
> > take that
> > literally, then wouldn't I have to use the 60# Monterey Gloss
> > stock? And
> > wouldn't other vendors of theirs, regardless of their proofing
> > system, have
> > to use the same stock?
>
>
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