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Re: UCR/GCR revisited
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Re: UCR/GCR revisited


  • Subject: Re: UCR/GCR revisited
  • From: Bob Marchant <email@hidden>
  • Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 22:32:37 +0100


Paul wrote


It is a story of getting high quality images by using ICC color management
tools in a "non standard" printing condition by any cost.
This let some people come to the conclusion that printing to standards
results in moderate quality.



Hi Paul.

Although I fully agree about your concern re standards, I'm not sure about the "by any cost " reference regarding the job in question. We did a similar exercise for a photographer's yearbook some years ago with a printing company that said that they ran a stable press. . We produced a set of profiles with varying GCR and let the photographers choose the most apt profile and do their own CMYK conversions ( high GCR for neutral images etc ) . The book ran for years without any real issues , and the same model was used for a series of awards books printed by the same company. It wasn't an overly complicated project.


Can you imagine digital photography without sRGB?


Not for amateurs maybe , but for professionals it doesn't have to be imagined as it exists ( even though I do have to admit that some 'professional ' camera manufactures have often thought otherwise ! )



Will the ISO standard printing conditions get accepted or will the "house-standards" prevail?


Let's hope that the two eventually become the same


ICC color management cannot survive without standards.


It would help if we all agreed on best practice which of course inevitably involves agreed standards for file exchange and repro . However if we are to excel in any part of the industry , we have to be able to work creatively within those standards, and be prepared to move on as the technology and quality levels improve .


But even without industry wide standards, I'd still use ICC profiling for the consistency and creative resource it provides within our own workflow.

As to having a profile editor in Photoshop in order to edit images individually ,for me it would be a similar process to trying to steer a car by adjusting the track rods or tyre pressures rather than using the steering wheel.

As a photographer , the profile is the window on the press , Photoshop is the software for editing the images using that window.

It is of course a different matter if we were editing camera profiles for a 'creative' output , but that's probably a subject for another thread.

Regards,

Bob Marchant




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