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Re: Media Testing for maclife.de


  • Subject: Re: Media Testing for maclife.de
  • From: Uli Zappe <email@hidden>
  • Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 20:08:36 +0200

Am 14.09.2008 um 19:25 schrieb Andrew Rodney:
You keep repeating the same attitude: if I disagree with you, the only thing that comes to your mind is that this must be because I did not understand something.

The difference is, when I and others disagree with you, we supply references and facts.

You do and I don't? I described my procedure at least roughly so far. Apart from ridiculing it, you haven't provided an alternative suggestion.


You haven't as yet done this.

And Chris suggests I shouldn't.

Sorry, this whole thing started with a long post of mine that supplied several facts. I have supplied more facts in a German publication you cannot understand which isn't my fault. I was nice enough to offer a translation, but you cannot expect me to do that in no time.

I'm hardly infallible but I do listen to those who have a bloody clue, some of whom have asked you to clarify your procedures (to be ignored)

I'm not aware I ignored anyone's question in this thread.

but instead using this list because you like the sound of your own voice.

You can easily see from the maclife.de thread that I basically posted one mail per month for several months to inform the list about new issues of the Mac Life series, and then maybe replied to a few questions. I did this because I learned in the context of another (rare) post of mine that there was some interest in this list.


The whole thing only exploded when in my last review summary, I mentioned the name of Adobe (I surely wish I wouldn't have). Adobe played a completely negligible role in the original review; it was probably mentioned only once or twice as one of the several RAW converter manufacturers, which were not the focus of the review. From this thread you would think it was in the center of the review - again the "hub of the universe" effect. I certainly didn't ask for that, but I tried as best as I could to reply to each question, only find myself accused now of misusing this list to make my voice heard and, at the same time, not answering questions.

When you launch Lightroom for the first time and choose to export some (previously added) image in TIFF format, Adobe 1998 is suggested by default. Of course you can select another space instead.

Its sticky from last use.

There is no last use when you launch Lightroom for the first time.

And as Bob pointed out, you once again failed to even READ the bloody instructions

Default values in applications have nothing to do with documentation.

You also seem to misunderstand the differences with Export and Open in External Editor.

How so? What's to understand here? Clearly, if I want to use a target image for profiling, I do *not* want to edit it. Therefore, "Open in External Editor" would be the wrong choice, or the GUI is poorly named/ conceptualized, which, of course, could be the case.


You are correct that for "Open in External Editor", the default is indeed ProPhoto.

One is setup via preferences, one is setup based on whatever export presets you may have selected (so there are NO defaults). And as mentioned, Adobe clearly indicates which encoding color space is recommended, something you missed. No, Adobe RGB (1998) is not suggested.

My testing was focussed on what is actually coded into the application, not on recommendations in some manual.


But this is another completely meaningless argument. Of course I checked internally if results would differ if I used another color space such as ProPhotoRGB. The differences were completely negligible.

I will now try and spare you my voice until my English review is ready and not reply to mails from you anymore until then.

            Bye
                    Uli
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