Re: Colorsync-users Digest, Vol 10, Issue 166
Re: Colorsync-users Digest, Vol 10, Issue 166
- Subject: Re: Colorsync-users Digest, Vol 10, Issue 166
- From: Martin Orpen <email@hidden>
- Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2013 00:51:32 +0100
On 3 Aug 2013, at 23:25, Ernst Dinkla <email@hidden> wrote:
> On 08/03/2013 10:47 PM, Spinnaker Photo Imaging Center wrote:
>> Mark Bergsma of Bellingham, WA, still uses his Epson Pro 10000.
>>
>> I forwarded you comment to Mark. The issue with 10000 if I remember, is couldn't get reds.
>
> There is the Epson 10000CF with Epson's first pigment ink called Archival if I recall it correctly. That one could not make a good Dmax on matte papers and had a lousy gamut. Epson deliberately printed a poster for the Photokina 2002? in 1950's style to mask that low gamut. I had a 10000CF and loaded it with a third party pigment to get better results.
> The other one, the Epson 10000 with the dye inks could make a nice gamut and Dmax on any paper. But dye inks do not have longevity and are not stable (for proofing).
That was the beast that I used, the 10000, not the CF version as the gamut wasn't big enough.
The black was incredible.
It needed to be handled with care otherwise the larger picoliter K dots meant that you ended up with beautiful models with stubble instead of shading on their faces :-)
We get a finer dot now and incredible advances in all areas of colour reproduction… apart from black density.
In 2002 I made a series of prints on the 10000 for Nick Knight that were destined for the Yohji Yamamoto exhibition at La Masion Européenne de la Photographie in Paris. Big, black and red prints on Hahnemühle paper... that I cannot recreate -- even though I have the latest Epson technology and the finest hardware and software for measuring and manipulating colour!
I think that it's depressing that work from more than a decade ago can't be improved upon. And *deeply* depressing that I can't even reproduce work that I was doing more than a decade ago :-(
> On the HP Z3100-3200: HP has documents on the inks used with different media presets + the ink limits per media preset for the normal OEM driver. There are also documents which media presets to use for third party media. You can create a custom media preset based on an OEM one and make slight changes on the ink load + drying time etc. and then calibrate the third party paper + make the profile. Non-inkjet papers can be used as well, the Arches falls in that category I guess.
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Wide_Inkjet_Printers/ has a map in the Files with several docs on the subject.
Thanks, I'll take a look.
Regards
--
Martin Orpen
Idea Digital Imaging Ltd
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