Re: Humans (and cameras and scanners) do not have a color gamut (?)
Re: Humans (and cameras and scanners) do not have a color gamut (?)
- Subject: Re: Humans (and cameras and scanners) do not have a color gamut (?)
- From: edmund ronald via colorsync-users <email@hidden>
- Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2020 00:59:55 +0100
Please, enough? Or do we need to call the Gods of the list back down to
Earth to ZOT! you both ?
Go and make some prints, or write a book on color or something and stop
polluting our computers with this nonsense, PLEASE
Edmund
On Sat, Jan 11, 2020 at 12:54 AM Wire ~ via colorsync-users <
email@hidden> wrote:
> Why is it fair for you to make this generalized statement in your
> tutorials, especially considering your taking on the mantle of
> responsibility as an educator, but for me to make this same point is
> ignorant?
>
> You've antagonized me over making the same observation. after I clarified
> in subsequent posts, and brought up that I understand the contextuality of
> the matter to show you I am not struggling with these concepts.
>
> I'm asking this rhetorically to call you out. Not because I expect you to
> answer the specific question.
>
> The fact is you should enjoy no such privilege of the statement in your
> video by your own reasoning.
>
> I would not bother to call this out except you've made it such a personal
> point of berating my posts—and me personally!
>
> And when confronted with the obvious double-standard you appeal to your own
> authority.
>
> I will invoke Godwin's Law and destroy myself for you. Seig heil !
>
> P.S.
> It's really impossible to take you seriously.
>
> On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 3:40 PM Andrew Rodney via colorsync-users <
> email@hidden> wrote:
>
> >
> > On Jan 10, 2020, at 4:10 PM, Wire ~ via colorsync-users <
> > email@hidden> wrote:
> > >
> > > Andrew, so I am watching your sRGB tutorial on the web, and in this
> > video you remark, and I quote
> > >
> > > "If your camera is set up to give you sRGB, then that's what you're
> > gonna get"
> >
> > Yes.
> >
> > > So what's the finer point here?
> >
> > Seems you should concentrate on understanding the broader point before
> > confusing yourself by asking about the finer point.
> >
> > Jack Holm and I co-authored this paper for the ICC, I think you should
> > download it and read it, slowly, perhaps several times:
> >
> >
> >
> http://www.color.org/ICC_white_paper_20_Digital_photography_color_management_basics.pdf
> >
> > Here’s just a sentence of the article I think you should read, slowly,
> > perhaps several times:
> > “When you set your digital camera controls to capture an image (which is
> > initially a RAW data file) into a color space (let's use sRGB in this
> > example), there are two fundamental parts to this process: rendering the
> > data and then encoding the data. In creating an output-referred image,
> the
> > camera or computer system has to perform the color rendering processing
> > before it can encode the result of the processing into sRGB“.
> >
> > It seems your understanding of the two fundamental parts of the process,
> > rendering raw data into an encoding color space is limited and you’re
> > confused by this fact.
> >
> > > If we placed your tutorial next to your diatribes on this thread, which
> > definition should we choose?
> >
> > We? Here’s my suggestion specifically for you:
> > 1. Instead of jumping around on differing subjects you don’t appear to
> > understand, stick to one and learn the broader points.
> > 2. Consider buying a book on color management and reading it, slowly and
> > several times. I believe this is a good one for you to start with:
> >
> >
> >
> https://www.amazon.com/Color-Management-Digital-Photographers-Dummies/dp/0470048921
> > <
> >
> https://www.amazon.com/Color-Management-Digital-Photographers-Dummies/dp/0470048921
> > >
> >
> > If “we“ placed your misunderstood diatribes on this thread revolving
> > around fundamentals of color management, I think this book will be a good
> > start for you.
> >
> > Andrew Rodney
> > http://www.digitaldog.net/ <http://www.digitaldog.net/>
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