On Jan 5, 2011, at 6:44 PM,
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> it's inefficient when the first question is not answered (references for
> ObjC cod'ing... which apparently are not needed).
>
> i could care less if someone thinks i'm just troll'ing.
> and i identify more with elves.
>
> too much ego, too much machine; too few hacking, too few helping... (not
> directed at anyone in particular).
>
> my response to samsårapuras is just a flanger noise reduction for my mind...
>
> and the enSUI project has being just digitalized, but with such "help" i
> may just patent it.
>
>>>
>>> On Jan 5, 2011, at 18:33 ,
email@hidden wrote:
>>>
>>>> finally an answer, i don't need to know ObjC for my project. so C it is
>>>> (as i said... much earlier, i know Java and a little of C++ and ASKED
>>>> for
>>>> a reference to read and study, but got NO reply).
>>>>
>>>> cross posting at a web forum? was that some form of joke? i was just
>>>> suggesting that this mailing list will be better as a web forum
>>>> (Vanilla
>>>> works nice).
>>>
>>> Vincent/Esteban/Stephan/Whatever,
>>>
>>> I think the problem is that your posts generally do not make a lot of
>>> sense
>>> and seem to be more about your political views/opinions than anything
>>> to do with a technical development mailing list for Darwin.
>>>
>>> For instance, most people on this list honestly couldn't care less if
>>> you
>>> relocate to Mountain View or if you relocate to Milan or what you want
>>> to call yourself today, since it all has very little (read:nothing) to
>>> do with
>>> Darwin development.
>>>
>>> As for your project, it's not actually very clear what you're doing or
>>> what
>>> you really need help with. We did answer the couple of actual
>>> Darwin-related
>>> development questions you asked, but mostly ignored the other inane
>>> rantings.
>>>
>>> Also, your questions themselves often seem muddled and quite trollish.
>>> If they're
>>> genuine development-related questions, I apologize for most of us, but
>>> given
>>> your history on this list posting political statements and attempting to
>>> ignite
>>> discussion here regarding such statements, it's hard to treat a question
>>> like
>>> 'What backdoors have governments put into Darwin?' as a real question
>>> and
>>> not an attempt to start another political debate. Finally, you seem to
>>> be missing
>>> a key understanding of the difference between Mac OS X and Darwin when
>>> you ask some of your questions. For example, what Mail and the Keychain
>>> Access
>>> applications may or may not do are not really relevant since neither are
>>> included
>>> with Darwin. Also, since you have full access to the source, you can
>>> reasonably
>>> set the trust properties of your Cert Authorities in your home-spun
>>> OS/Window Manager
>>> thing. You can even do this in Mac OS X if you feel the urge to do so,
>>> it just
>>> comes pre-loaded with appropriate top-level trust certs so that you can
>>> do
>>> such basic things as browse the web.
>>>
>>> Anyway, most people here are quite knowledgeable and helpful for real
>>> Darwin-related
>>> engineering questions. If you just do a quick perusal of this list over
>>> the past
>>> year or so, however, you'll see that you rarely actually ask such
>>> questions and
>>> you're often asked by people who try to be helpful at first to either
>>> remain
>>> on-topic or to stop posting. I suggest you take that advice, this is not
>>> a political
>>> debate forum nor is this a forum for creating the next best user
>>> experience, it's
>>> simply a Darwin engineering forum. If you want to discuss those other
>>> topics,
>>> take your own advice and find a nice web forum that does so.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Le 5 janv. 2011 à 23:48, Stephen J. Butler a écrit :
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Axel Luttgens <
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>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Either some posts didn't arrive in my mailbox, or some of them were
>>>>>>> off-list. Anyway, I'm lost...
>>>>>>> What are we speaking about? ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He wants us to tell him where all the backdoors are in the kernel,
>>>>>> because he doesn't know ObjC. Except we told him there aren't any
>>>>>> known backdoors, the kernel isn't ObjC, and if he wanted a security
>>>>>> audit he'd have to do it himself.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The rest of these posts have been rather unintelligible attempts at
>>>>>> cross posting an OT discussion to a web forum. I wish he'd just
>>>>>> stop...
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Stephen.
>>>>> I'm now a bit reassured. :-)
>>>>> Axel
>>>
>>> Yeah, don't worry, Axel, you haven't really missed anything of value.
>>>
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