Re: Future of WebObjects?
Re: Future of WebObjects?
- Subject: Re: Future of WebObjects?
- From: Lotsa Cabo <email@hidden>
- Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 11:49:19 -0400
Don,
If I may, i don't think anyone is expecting an announcement from Apple
regarding WebObjects. At least for me, and the people that I have
heard from, what I think people want are straight answers. To
paraphrase one of the guys from last night, if he spent $3000 to head
to WWDC and directly asked someone if WebObjects will be around
tomorrow, he should be able to get a straight answer.
On the other hand, historically Apple has never been the type of
company to announce anything before it's golden. So, for anyone to
expect them to change just because they paid for a flight out to the
west coast... well... that just ain't gonna happen.
I think anyone will begin to get a bit anxious if any person or company
they had a relationship with remained quiet all of the time. It's like
telling someone you have a juicy secret but that you're not gonna tell
them. Right or wrong, people will eventually come to their own
conclusions and start to predict what is going to happen.
I think most of us just want some open communication and understanding.
Sure, sign some confidentially agreements or put other security
measures in place if you need, but say SOMETHING. Even, if they just
give a general statement to say that a certain technology is NOT going
away... anything!
Again, I don't think anyone wants an announcement, per se; just a clear
yes or no as to whether or not they can continue to bank on certain
technologies.
R/S
Ryan
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On Jul 1, 2004, at 10:28 AM, Dov Rosenberg wrote:
> There has been a lot of discussion lately about the total lack of
> WebObjects
> news from Apple at WWDC. This got me wondering a bit as to what
> everyone was
> expecting. I have been using WebObjects since 3.5 back in 1997.
>
> Since Apple migrated to full Java support in 5.x they have been able to
> leverage all of the technology being brought forward by the Java
> community.
> Our WO apps use JMS, XML (not the WebObjects provided APIs), XSL, RSS,
> PDF
> generation, Microsoft Excel generation, reading Word files, etc. We
> have
> never been slowed down because of lack of WebObjects implementation of
> a
> particular technology. If Apple doesn't provide it - someone else on
> the
> planet does!!
>
> So what announcements were people expecting from Apple regarding WO? A
> new
> version of Xcode - who cares I use Eclipse with great satisfaction.
> Some new
> features in the API's? If I can't find a feature or function in the
> Apple
> API, the new Java 1.4x API is very full featured and useful.
>
> The fact that WebObjects has supported Servlet deployment since 5.x
> has made
> the fact that native deployments on Linux can't be easily done totally
> mute.
> I have never been a fan of Monitor. I would much rather give my
> customer a
> WAR or JAR file and let them deploy my app on any platform they have a
> J2EE
> Servlet engine on. Then the discussion with the IT department of
> whether I
> am using WebObjects is also mute - I am a J2EE application!
>
> Bottom line - Apple is not a tool company like Borland, but they have
> some
> kick ass APIs and technologies (WebObjects, EOF, Quicktime,
> Rendezvous, etc)
> that are far ahead of the rest of the pack. Accept the fact the
> WOBuilder
> and EOModeler suck, use Dreamweaver or notepad and Eclipse/ANT/WOLips.
>
>
> --
> Dov Rosenberg
> Conviveon Corporation
> http://www.conviveon.com
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