Re: Off Topic : XCode, Java and Code Completion
Re: Off Topic : XCode, Java and Code Completion
- Subject: Re: Off Topic : XCode, Java and Code Completion
- From: Chuck Hill <email@hidden>
- Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 08:38:18 -0800
It works on Eclipse 2.1.1 on OS X, even the shift-scroll horizontal
scrolling work.
Chuck
On Mar 25, 2004, at 12:45 AM, Ulrich Kvster wrote:
Am 25.03.2004 um 09:13 schrieb Thomas:
Scroll wheels don't work? I rest my case...
8^)
Seriously, I get very frustrated when they don't. I have two huge
screens, and trying to click on a scroll control is a big slow down.
That's one of the reasons I gave up on NetBeans.
I've tried it with Eclipse 2.1.1 on Windows and Eclipse 3.0.0M8 on
MacOS X. Both worked as expected.
Ulrich
On 25/03/2004, at 17:03, steve stout wrote:
Ok... the ever recurring Eclipse vs. Xcode thread. Eclipse has got
some pretty nifty features--from what I've seen of it, but it's got
a horrible interface. And it's a bit slow. And scroll wheels don't
work. And how the hell do you set up WOProject/WOLips anyways?
I've never found a decent getting started manual. (I haven't looked
very hard tho). Any suggestions?
And Xcode is getting better. Like that Monty Python ... "I'm not
dead yet! I'm getting betta!"
.steve
On Mar 24, 2004, at 10:38 PM, Thomas wrote:
I've never used Eclipse (although I've used a few other Java IDEs),
but it seems to me that one of the most important features of
WebObjects as a web application development environment (as opposed
to a Java programming environment) is its ability to rapidly
generate powerful applications without having to write much code. I
try to avoid code as much as possible, even though I'm quite
competent as a Java programmer, because I believe I'm more
productive that way and because it is much more self-documenting
than code, with the page layout and bindings being a very powerful
form of documentation. I'm trying to approach zero lines of code
per day!
I swear at WOBuilder every day because of its long-standing unfixed
bugs, but I'd swear much louder and longer if I had to rebuild the
project every time I made a tiny change in WOBuilder. Xcode is a
perfectly adequate tool for me for WO development. Code completion
works fine for me, although it would be nice to have it work with
the built-in Java classes as well.
Of course YMMV, but I just wanted to point out that there are more
important things than quickly writing lots of lines of code.
Thomas
On 25/03/2004, at 13:45, James Cicenia wrote:
Well for my two cents... I was a complete newbie when I started my
project and I have to say that
I am very pleased with Eclipse. Mind you it has some
idiosyncrasies but I have learned to deal with
them in my own idiosyncratic methods. I still can't figure out how
to search all my files including the
wod files. Chuck do you know how? Also, I do have to rebuild when
I edit my wod files in WOBuilder.
Finally WOBuilder doesn't always see all the new methods in my
subclasses. Other than that it has
worked like a charm and has only crashed once on my Powerbook and
we are talking 12 hours days
of use.
-James
On Mar 24, 2004, at 8:22 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:
Where shall I start. It crashes more than Eclipse. The indexing
is painful and serves no function that I can discern. It loves
to cache out of date things in the build directory so that builds
fail on out of date problems. The project file format is too
complex to fix by hand when problems happen. The whole targets
and build configuration thing is a byzantine nightmare. Try
WOProject and Ant. You'll never go want to go back. Code
completion blows. The auto/re indent works better than Eclipse
though. I hate waiting for it to build. Eclipse stays build with
every change. It is always ready to run. Clumsy configuration
of launch parameters. The debugger is lacking. Eclipse shows
errors on the fly as you type. It has an integrated class
browsers that does not hide things that Apple thinks you should
not see. xCode was not built to build Java (or WO apps). I could
go on but I've work to do.
Chuck
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| | >Off Topic : XCode, Java and Code Completion (From: Owen McKerrow <email@hidden>) |
| | >Re: Off Topic : XCode, Java and Code Completion (From: Jim Rankin <email@hidden>) |
| | >Re: Off Topic : XCode, Java and Code Completion (From: Chuck Hill <email@hidden>) |
| | >Re: Off Topic : XCode, Java and Code Completion (From: Owen McKerrow <email@hidden>) |
| | >Re: Off Topic : XCode, Java and Code Completion (From: Chuck Hill <email@hidden>) |
| | >Re: Off Topic : XCode, Java and Code Completion (From: James Cicenia <email@hidden>) |
| | >Re: Off Topic : XCode, Java and Code Completion (From: Thomas <email@hidden>) |
| | >Re: Off Topic : XCode, Java and Code Completion (From: steve stout <email@hidden>) |
| | >Re: Off Topic : XCode, Java and Code Completion (From: Thomas <email@hidden>) |
| | >Re: Off Topic : XCode, Java and Code Completion (From: Ulrich Köster <email@hidden>) |