Re: Looks like ThinkSecret got some of the scoop on WO from WWDC'06
Re: Looks like ThinkSecret got some of the scoop on WO from WWDC'06
- Subject: Re: Looks like ThinkSecret got some of the scoop on WO from WWDC'06
- From: Chuck Hill <email@hidden>
- Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 10:59:08 -0700
On Aug 26, 2006, at 2:38 PM, Art Isbell wrote:
On Aug 26, 2006, at 6:09 AM, David Sanchez wrote:
I hope, XCode will be used to develop WO in the future. I do not
know how because Cocoa-bridge is deprecated.
Xcode doesn't currently use the Java-ObjC bridge to build WO
projects; it just invokes jam to build WO projects using javac or
jikes.
On Aug 24, 2006, at 12:37 PM, Daryl Lee wrote:
Apple's strategy is to make WebObjects the best server-side
runtime environment we can by:
- Making WO work well with ANT and the most popular IDEs,
including Xcode and Eclipse
So instead of invoking jam, Xcode 3 will apparently invoke ant to
build WO projects. This then offers the promise of the same ant WO
projects being able to be managed by Xcode, Eclipse, and other Java
IDE's that use ant.
I will slightly disagree with this. I think a more correct statement
is, "This then offers the possibility of Xcode building the WO
projects managed by Eclipse, and other Java IDE's that use ant." It
is the WOProject Ant tasks, rather than Ant itself, that manages the
build. And those tasks rely on certain resources that Xcode does not
produce or maintain (i.e. the .classpath, the includes/excludes in
the .wolips directory. Xcode has a much different view of managing
the resources in a project. So adding a file or a component or a
framework in Xcode is not going to update the files that WOProject
relies on. If Xcode plugins are a possibility, this could be done.
I have a couple of projects that build in Eclipse, from Ant at the
command-line, and from Xcode. Managing what is in these projects is
a stumbling block. Often, then can be added in Xcode and Eclipse
will see them on the file system and "do the right thing". However,
a certain amount of work needs to be repeated in each IDE. I don't
see that changing.
So it doesn't appear that the Java-ObjC bridge deprecation will
prevent Xcode from managing future WO projects.
Agreed, the bridge is not going to be the problem.
Chuck
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