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Re: Strange WOLips importing error

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Re: Strange WOLips importing error

Subject: Re: Strange WOLips importing error
From: Pascal Robert <email@hidden>
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 13:55:10 -0500

Again I bag to differ. My hypothesis is that Apple just followed the most vocal people of the Wonder community. This was a very comfortable decision for then because it freed them of investing in tool support. If the same people would spend the same mental and vocal energy on supporting the old WO tools, we could be in completely different environment now.
You're overlooking the other possibility, which is that Apple maybe isn't WILLING to invest in WO tools, and the longer they choose not to, the higher the risk that a WO tool would break in a future release, which would potentially put the entire framework release at risk. In this interpretation of events, WOLips freed the core frameworks to grow with substantially less risk.

As far as supporting the old WO tools, I'm not exactly sure how we could have supported them. Could we have begged Apple louder to replace them? It had been years since anything really had come out of Apple in this regard. None of the Apple tools support a public plugin architecture, so begging was really the only other choice. So it was either that we try to provide nice replacements to the tools (which is the route we chose) or we beg louder, which hasn't had much impact on Apple over the past 5-7 years.

I'm starting to think they dropped the tools for both reasons. They looked at what the most vocal users of WO are using, and what Apple staff are using, and they saw that most of them were already using Eclipse. At the same time, they wanted to remove old legacy stuff from Leopard, and Cocoa EOF was one of those legacy technologies.

BTW, the annual survey is a good way to get feedback from the whole community, not just the vocal ones. This is why we created the new WO community Web site and the surveys. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (email@hidden) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: This email sent to email@hidden References: >Strange WOLips importing error (From: Georg Tuparev <email@hidden>) >Re: Strange WOLips importing error (From: Mike Schrag <email@hidden>) >Re: Strange WOLips importing error (From: Georg Tuparev <email@hidden>) >Re: Strange WOLips importing error (From: Mike Schrag <email@hidden>) >Re: Strange WOLips importing error (From: Georg Tuparev <email@hidden>) >Re: Strange WOLips importing error (From: Mike Schrag <email@hidden>) Prev by Date: Re: Strange WOLips importing error Next by Date: WebObjects: get the facts Previous by thread: Re: Strange WOLips importing error Next by thread: Re: Strange WOLips importing error Index(es): Date Thread