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Re: Use of finalize methods in WO
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Re: Use of finalize methods in WO


  • Subject: Re: Use of finalize methods in WO
  • From: Chuck Hill <email@hidden>
  • Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:16:57 -0700


On Aug 21, 2008, at 11:05 AM, David Avendasora wrote:


On Aug 21, 2008, at 11:47 AM, Nilton Lessa wrote:


On 21/08/2008, at 12:06, Alex Horovitz wrote:


On Aug 21, 2008, at 9:51 AM, Nilton Lessa wrote:

:-) In this report there are pearls like : "Webobjects is a framework in disuse". ...sigh....


In disguise??? Back when I was at NeXT we called it the WebObjects Framework. Not really much of a disguise if you have it in the f'n name.

Maybe I hadn't choosen the right word to translate their spetacular analysis: "Webobjects is a framework not being used anymore". And this conclusion comes from a large technology consulting company.

We discussed this phenomenon last night at the WO NoVA group. Consulting companies almost always get paid by the man-hour. If a project can be done in 1/10th the time with WO as it can be with another tech it is actually a disincentive for the consulting company to recommend WO because they'll make 1/10th the money off the project. That's their flawed perspective.

Or they might consider WO to the their competitive advantage.


It is a conflict of interest for an external company to define what the best technology is for a job that they are going to develop. Period.

I don't know that I would agree with that. I'd not want to hire an external company to develop something and then mandate they use a technology that they are unfamiliar with.



It is in the consulting companies best interest to bill as many hours as possible without getting sued. How they go about that is very rarely also in the best interest of the customer.

If the consulting company views their best interest as keeping the customer happy and getting additional projects going forward, then it is far more likely that the tech that they choose will be the best for the customer as well. This is exceedingly rare.

We exist. I do, I really do.


Sorry to sound so bleak, but I'd say that a majority of WO projects out there are in-house projects where a working application with a minimal amount of development time is really in _everyone's_ best interests.


That is probably true, but there are consulting companies out there (I can think of several) that make a significant portion of their money on WO work.

Chuck


-- Chuck Hill Senior Consultant / VP Development

Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems.
http://www.global-village.net/products/practical_webobjects







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