Re: Criticism of Java Persistence Frameworks Blog Post
Re: Criticism of Java Persistence Frameworks Blog Post
- Subject: Re: Criticism of Java Persistence Frameworks Blog Post
- From: Petite Abeille <email@hidden>
- Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 00:12:37 +0100
On Dec 5, 2008, at 11:40 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:
On Dec 5, 2008, at 2:34 PM, Petite Abeille wrote:
On Dec 5, 2008, at 11:16 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:
It thought it might be interesting to look at this this from a WO
in 2008 with Wonder perspective and see how many of his grumbles
are still valid (if they ever were).
Chuck, out of curiosity, during all those long years laboring with
EOF/WOF, have your ever seriously tried to use, say, SQL and HTTP
more directly? Without all that NeXT paraphilia? In the 'raw' so to
speak?
During, no. Before, yes. At least the SQL part. WO is the only
thing I have developed web apps with. The HTML side of WO I am not
so amazed by. It is the EOF part that I really like. I tried to
make my own ORM a couple of times and was actively looking for a
good commercial implementation in Java or Delphi before being
assigned a WO project. At the time I was mostly using Delphi.
Could it be that those frameworks are some sort of glorified Rube
Goldberg apparatus, much more complex than the problem at hand? And we
simply got used to them, over time, out of habit, loosing sight of
everything else?
Cheers,
PA, The Luddite.
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