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Re: Criticism of Java Persistence Frameworks Blog Post
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Re: Criticism of Java Persistence Frameworks Blog Post


  • Subject: Re: Criticism of Java Persistence Frameworks Blog Post
  • From: Pascal Robert <email@hidden>
  • Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 18:15:41 -0500


Le 08-12-05 à 17:16, Chuck Hill a écrit :


On Dec 5, 2008, at 2:00 PM, Guido Neitzer wrote:

I wasn't really impressed by that article. It sounded like someone complaining about all persistence frameworks at the same time without really understanding even the first one he ever used ... or he wouldn't write:

"For example, SQL is a very dynamic language that you can’t state it with objects. What we see is QUERY, JOIN, WHERE objects in ORM frameworks to re-implement SQL again in object world. We made this mistake in our first ORM framework but corrected in second one."

I didn't read it all that thoroughly as I got the impression that someone is whining about things he did do wrong in the first quarter of the article. I might be wrong about that, but definitely he wasn't able to show his understanding of the difference of all the tools out there. And complaining about all of them at the same time - at least you should be able to show the differences.

Well, that is one thing that people often complain about WO - there is no current comparison to its competitors. It thought it might be interesting to look at this this from a WO in 2008 with Wonder perspective and see how many of his grumbles are still valid (if they ever were).

And we do need a current comparison. It would be great to have some RoR, PHP, .Net, etc. devs and one WO dude in some kind of competition where people will have to complete an given spec. _______________________________________________
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