Re: Criticism of Java Persistence Frameworks Blog Post
Re: Criticism of Java Persistence Frameworks Blog Post
- Subject: Re: Criticism of Java Persistence Frameworks Blog Post
- From: Thomas Wedderburn-Bisshop <email@hidden>
- Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 06:53:40 +1100
Long ago, in a galaxy far away (well, OK, ten years ago in Sydney), I
published my analysis of what I saw as the major or most useful
players in the web application server space.
http://www.woomeranet.com.au/site/bazaar/enterprise
Surprisingly, these two web pages are still the most visited pages on
that web site. But it really is ten years old, and we really need a
replacement comparison, and I know a lot less than I did ten years
ago...
8^)
Perhaps somebody could whip up a WebObjects application that would
allow lots of people to contribute their knowledge of different
platforms. I don't think a Wiki is the best forum for a head-to-head
comparison of many platforms on specific issues.
Regards
Thomas
On 06/12/2008, at 10:15 AM, Pascal Robert wrote:
Le 08-12-05 à 17:16, Chuck Hill a écrit :
On Dec 5, 2008, at 2:00 PM, Guido Neitzer wrote:
I wasn't really impressed by that article. It sounded like someone
complaining about all persistence frameworks at the same time
without really understanding even the first one he ever used ...
or he wouldn't write:
"For example, SQL is a very dynamic language that you can’t state
it with objects. What we see is QUERY, JOIN, WHERE objects in ORM
frameworks to re-implement SQL again in object world. We made this
mistake in our first ORM framework but corrected in second one."
I didn't read it all that thoroughly as I got the impression that
someone is whining about things he did do wrong in the first
quarter of the article. I might be wrong about that, but
definitely he wasn't able to show his understanding of the
difference of all the tools out there. And complaining about all
of them at the same time - at least you should be able to show the
differences.
Well, that is one thing that people often complain about WO - there
is no current comparison to its competitors. It thought it might
be interesting to look at this this from a WO in 2008 with Wonder
perspective and see how many of his grumbles are still valid (if
they ever were).
And we do need a current comparison. It would be great to have some
RoR, PHP, .Net, etc. devs and one WO dude in some kind of
competition where people will have to complete an given spec.
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