Re: Complimentary App Server Choice
Re: Complimentary App Server Choice
- Subject: Re: Complimentary App Server Choice
- From: Lon Varscsak via Webobjects-dev <email@hidden>
- Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2020 11:51:41 -0700
We also use bootique...for war-less applications. I've kind of built all
the stuff like WebObjects (I have a monitor a taskd, etc)...not public
domain yet though :/
On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 11:50 AM Lon Varscsak <email@hidden>
wrote:
> We've settled on Apache Wicket (apps are being re-written from WO) with
> Apache Cayenne (EOF-like but more modern). I love both, I would be sad if
> I had to use a different toolset.
>
> On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 12:14 AM Jérémy DE ROYER via Webobjects-dev <
> email@hidden> wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> And about wo components framework ?
>>
>> What are you using with Bootique ?
>>
>> Jérémy
>>
>> Le 13 févr. 2020 à 23:08, Matthew Ness via Webobjects-dev <
>> email@hidden> a écrit :
>>
>>
>> I wouldn't hesitate to recommend Bootique.
>>
>> We've had various types of Bootique apps in production for years now to
>> great success, some with the Cayenne module directly derived from older WO
>> apps/dbs, some communicating with existing WO apps, others simply
>> processing tasks.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> --
>> Matt
>> http://logicsquad.net
>> https://www.linkedin.com/company/logic-squad/
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 13, 2020, at 11:25 PM, Andrus Adamchik via Webobjects-dev
>> wrote:
>>
>> My opinionated take is the following:
>>
>> * The "official" JavaEE is dead and is now a pure volunteer effort under
>> https://jakarta.ee/ . The "appserver" concept has almost disappeared and
>> morphed to something different. All the past market leaders have moved on
>> to more lightweight solutions, though some still cling to .war deployment.
>>
>> * SpringBoot is the market leader in the Java world. If you are looking
>> to build a marketable Java developer resume, learn SpringBoot.
>>
>> * If you need to write apps for your org or your customers, and are not
>> constrained by the PHBs opinion, use Bootique. It is a better platform in
>> the modern appserver-free world. Bootique is "commercially-viable" in a
>> sense that there are hundreds of apps that run in prod for a number of
>> years. But it is still an open source effort supported by community and a
>> mid-sized company (ObjectStyle), so it is sometimes an uphill battle in
>> organizations that are looking to conform to the lowest common denominator.
>>
>> So you decide :)
>>
>> Andrus
>>
>>
>> On Feb 13, 2020, at 3:06 PM, Gino Pacitti via Webobjects-dev <
>> email@hidden> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for that… it looks really interesting…
>>
>> Is it a commercially viable alternative to some of the others like JBoss,
>> Tomcat, Websphere etc..
>>
>> I would like to add another feather to my bow but not really sure which
>> architecture to devote time to so that I can work on bigger projects in a
>> team...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 13 Feb 2020, at 11:16, Andrus Adamchik <email@hidden> wrote:
>>
>> We are using Bootique: https://bootique.io/
>>
>> Just like SpringBoot, its idea is that it is not an "appserver". It gives
>> you a plain Java app with your own "main" method, and a way to assemble
>> various components together (and also modularity, dependency injection,
>> consistent configuration and a large collection of ready-to-use modules).
>> The app can serve web requests, run jobs or do whatever.
>>
>> Unlike SpringBoot, Bootique is much smaller, starts much faster, and
>> doesn't feel like magic. Also all the apps you write are automatically
>> equipped with POSIX CLI.
>>
>> Andrus
>>
>>
>> On Feb 11, 2020, at 4:29 PM, Paul Yu via Webobjects-dev <
>> email@hidden> wrote:
>>
>> Spring and it’s ecosystem seems to be pretty powerful.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> Please excuse iOS autocomplete
>>
>> On Feb 11, 2020, at 8:06 AM, Gino Pacitti via Webobjects-dev <
>> email@hidden> wrote:
>>
>> hey if any one was to use a different app server configuration other
>> than WO what would you choose and why?
>>
>> What are most companies requesting these days in a Java system?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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