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Re: Security concerns (Was Re: XQuartz quextion)
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Re: Security concerns (Was Re: XQuartz quextion)


  • Subject: Re: Security concerns (Was Re: XQuartz quextion)
  • From: dp <email@hidden>
  • Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 12:05:18 -0800

Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:


Apple is a large company and it's tempting for customers to over-simplify the process that goes on internally where such decisions are concerned. Put too few components in an update and people complain that the right bugs are not being fixed quickly enough. Put too many in and people complain about the impossibility of downloading that 200MB update over their Grandma's 56K modem connection. This continuing set of trade-offs, coupled with the fact that line engineers are notoriously biased when it comes to assessing urgency ("my component is the most important! No! Mine is!"), means that there has to be a process here and that process is currently being followed. In the meantime, Ben is giving you early access to his work, which many folks on this list will line up for the opportunity to tell you how great and frankly exceptional that is.


A little patience would be appreciated.  Thanks.

- Jordan

I think a little patience is what you're getting. For my part I'm understand the process and understand the internal workings of Apple and the limitations imposed on the X11 project. I just didn't expect X11 to be so broken and badly documented in Leopard as to be nearly unusable, and that a remedy (which is still in work) would be so hard to find. Expecting paying customers to wade into this patiently may be a bit naive. Having found it, I'm accustomed to seeing sourceforge-like organization with a project like this and lots of versioning documentation. Hence my own question about locations of code and changelog information. Finding vendor binaries in the ~username folder of an open source web server does not inspire confidence. And while I profoundly appreciate Ben's effort I'm still left wondering why his activity is even necessary in gold code. It is more expected for alpha and early beta releases, don't you think?


Perhaps this has all been explained elsewhere and I've yet to find it, but I'll continue to browse the archives to come up to speed.

And just so you know, *my* component really is the most important! :). Cut/past and clipboard sharing being my interest.

dp
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