Development Process (Was Re: Security concerns)
Development Process (Was Re: Security concerns)
- Subject: Development Process (Was Re: Security concerns)
- From: Jeremy Huddleston <email@hidden>
- Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 13:53:23 -0800
On Nov 25, 2007, at 12:05, dp wrote:
I think a little patience is what you're getting. For my part I'm
understand the process and understand the internal workings of Apple
and the limitations imposed on the X11 project. I just didn't expect
X11 to be so broken and badly documented in Leopard as to be nearly
unusable, and that a remedy (which is still in work) would be so
hard to find.
I apologize that the remedy is so hard to find for you. I found and
joined this list immediately after installing leopard in order to help
make X11 better. I think that Apple's openness in this has been
fantastic.
Expecting paying customers to wade into this patiently may be a bit
naive.
Well, honestly, I prefer this. I am so glad that Apple decided to
transition to X.org, and yes is means a bit of regressions for a few
months, but that is what you need to go through for progress like
this. If you don't want to use this new codebase, you always have the
option of using the old Tiger X11.pkg.
Having found it, I'm accustomed to seeing sourceforge-like
organization with a project like this and lots of versioning
documentation. Hence my own question about locations of code and
changelog information. Finding vendor binaries in the ~username
folder of an open source web server does not inspire confidence.
Yes, but how did you find those directories? That is all referenced
from the wiki (http://www.x.org/XDarwin) which has information on the
source repositories and the ChangeLog (http://gitweb.freedesktop.org/?p=xorg/xserver.git;a=shortlog;h=xorg-server-1.2-apple
). Additionally, Ben has been great about summarizing the changes
made in each release.
And just so you know, *my* component really is the most
important! :). Cut/past and clipboard sharing being my interest.
Eh... well... this is a big X11-based issue in general... especially
because X11 has more than one clip-board, so which do you sync with
and when? I believe the current/Tiger solution was to use Edit->Copy
to copy the PRIMARY atom and an external copy caused X11's PRIMARY to
change (at-least this is consistent with the behavior). I'm guessing
that pasting in Tiger X11 was just the same as middle-click (I don't
know since I never used it and don't miss it now that it's greyed-
out). I don't think any syncing was done with CLIPBOARD.
I honestly think this is a good solution for copy/paste. Perhaps we
could add items to the Edit menu (as shift-command-{c,v}) for copy/
paste-to-CLIPBOARD. Would that functionality serve you?
For details about the X11 clipboards, see:
Full Standard: http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/ucs/icccm.pdf
Cliff-notes: http://standards.freedesktop.org/clipboards-spec/clipboards-0.1.txt
--Jeremy
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