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Re: [SOLVED] Re: PLEASE HELP!!!!! [SOLVED]


  • Subject: Re: [SOLVED] Re: PLEASE HELP!!!!! [SOLVED]
  • From: Rick Mann <email@hidden>
  • Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 10:33:09 -0800


On Jan 19, 2009, at 02:43:56, Simon Wilson wrote:

On a side note: The new MacBook Pros charge *much* slower than the old ones. I can only hope this is in an attempt by Apple to extend battery lifetime and decrease the failure rate.


This could be because of the cell balancing they're doing.

Most rechargeable packs are a series string of cells (because you can make the cells as large as you want in terms of capacity, the chemistry restricts a cell to 3.7 V, give or take almost a volt, depending on chemistry). To charge the pack, you apply a voltage across the entire series string. All the cells see the same current, but because of variability in manufacturing (and it's nearly impossible to engineer this out), the cells charge at slightly different rates (some lose more energy to heat than others). Over time, the voltage across individual cells begins to vary.

Then some things happen: because the charger only knows what's happening to the pack as a whole, some cells begin to get over-charged which reduces their life. Other cells never get fully charged, and you waste capacity. While discharging, some cells get dangerously low, and for some chemistries (lithium polymer), this can result in them bursting into flame.

A smarter charger monitors the voltage of each cell in the pack, and can shunt some of the current around a cell, if its voltage gets too high during charging. Sometimes this requires reducing the overall charge current, too (although typically at the shunting stage, charge current is lower anyway). Sometimes it requires shunting earlier and reducing current more. All this contributes to longer charging times (waiting for the lower cells in a pack to catch up).

I have no idea if Apple pre-balances the packs before shipping them, or if this is something they do on your time during the first several charge cycles.

--
Rick

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 >Re: [SOLVED] Re: PLEASE HELP!!!!! [SOLVED] (From: Greg Guerin <email@hidden>)
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 >Re: [SOLVED] Re: PLEASE HELP!!!!! [SOLVED] (From: Steve Checkoway <email@hidden>)
 >Re: [SOLVED] Re: PLEASE HELP!!!!! [SOLVED] (From: Jens Miltner <email@hidden>)
 >Re: [SOLVED] Re: PLEASE HELP!!!!! [SOLVED] (From: Simon Wilson <email@hidden>)

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