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Re: Xc4 UI
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Re: Xc4 UI


  • Subject: Re: Xc4 UI
  • From: Dave <email@hidden>
  • Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 16:49:14 +0000


On 12 Mar 2011, at 18:20, Hamish Allan wrote:


Please excuse the brevity -- sent from my iPad

On 12 Mar 2011, at 15:01, Dave <email@hidden> wrote:

There is no need to factor these things in because there is no such thing as reincarnation and the other two are impossible.

Please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analogy

Yes, but using a house and reincarnation etc. doesn't serve well as an analogy for a number of reasons:


There is an element of choice involved in house moving and personal preference, e.g. you buy the house *you* like when *you want to buy it - you have choice, my original analogy attempted to express this by using a situation where this control had been taken away, e.g. dying. You decided to invent "choice" by bringing reincarnation into the discussion, which is ridiculous anyway, since even if there were such a thing (which I suppose there *might* be), I don't think many people would be in a hurry to kill themselves in order to be reincarnated more quickly.

The house analogy didn't express this lack of choice,

A better analogy would be if you used a Power Tool of choice for a fair number of years (call it PT1). The makers then bring out a new model (PT2) which when you try it out you find that it doesn't fit your toolbox, it doesn't work with materials that the previous tool did and a mode of control has been removed, thereby making it very difficult to use on the type work you do and your way of working.

Under these circumstances you'd continue to use PT1 for as long as possible in the hope that either a new version came along that addressed some or all of the issues or another Power Tool came on the market.

Which is why I was suggesting that it would be better to stay with XCode 3 for as long as possible (I don't actually have a choice in the matter since I have to support 10.4 and I have a lot of AppleScripts that I don't fancy re-writing unless I *really* have to) and I want to avoid having two copies of XCode on my main machine.

But what if I like the house I am living in now, most people prefer older houses, that's why they cost more. Besides that, I don't want to move, why should I be forced to?

I suggest that in future you live in a house you own, in a nation you have sovereign control over.

Well, I haven't been forced to move home yet and I doubt whether many people on this list have been forced to either! Have you for instance?


This is true, but when you do have many open windows in XCode 4 the experience is not good because you can't make the large project window small enough

You can resize all windows, and you can resize all panes within all windows, so I don't really understand what you mean.

As I said, you can't resize the main project window smaller than a certain predefined size and this size is still too big. In XCode 3, even in "Giant" mode, you can resize the main project window so that just the project files are visible. You can't do this in XCode 4.


I just want a small project window that only shows the files in the project, if it has a few buttons on it I can put up with that. I want to position this window at a particular place on one of my monitors and I want it to stay there unless I move it and I want it to remember its position when I close and re-open the project. I then want to be able to open source files and NIB files in separate windows position and size them the way I want them and I want them to remember their size and positions when I close and re-open them. You can't do this very easily using XCode 4, you waste a lot of time moving, resizing and scrolling windows.

Also, I don't want the act of clicking a file or other element to cause anything to be hidden or to change content in another pane.

This coupled with the other missing features means that I'd rather stick with XCode 3 for as long as possible.

The thing is that I really don't believe that even if I got really good at the one giant window way of working say to the level I am now with multiple windows that I'd work any faster. In fact I think I'd be slower and I also think that if I started off using the "one giant window" approach and then discovered the multi-window approach then I'd adopt it and become faster. It's called evolution and it's already happened once. To me, the XCode 4 UI is a regression in evolution.

Cheers
Dave













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 >Is xCode4 a requirement now? (From:  David DelMonte <email@hidden>)
 >Re: Is xCode4 a requirement now? (From: Rick Mann <email@hidden>)
 >Re: Is xCode4 a requirement now? (From: Dave <email@hidden>)
 >Xc4 UI (From: Rick Mann <email@hidden>)
 >Re: Xc4 UI (From: Dave <email@hidden>)
 >Re: Xc4 UI (From: Hamish Allan <email@hidden>)
 >Re: Xc4 UI (From: Dave <email@hidden>)
 >Re: Xc4 UI (From: Hamish Allan <email@hidden>)
 >Re: Xc4 UI (From: Dave <email@hidden>)
 >Re: Xc4 UI (From: Hamish Allan <email@hidden>)

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