Re: Xcode - An Apple Embarrassment
Re: Xcode - An Apple Embarrassment
- Subject: Re: Xcode - An Apple Embarrassment
- From: Laurent Daudelin <email@hidden>
- Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 21:09:00 -0800
On Feb 28, 2012, at 15:24, Crispin Bennett wrote:
> On 29/02/2012, at 5:54 AM, Jens Alfke wrote:
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>> Oh, come on. You ran into some bugs, and they’re frustrating no doubt, but this is an overreaction. If you’ve been around long enough to remember MPW, you’ve certainly had to deal with many buggy releases from many different vendors. I’ve certainly heard a lot of cursing from co-workers about Visual Studio over the hears. It’s unfortunate but it happens. Especially idiosyncratic bugs that only happen to a small number of users; it sounds like Xc 4.3 is behaving worse for you than for most people. (I haven’t had any real problems with it myself.)
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>> —Jens
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> While I'm aware how easy it is to get over-exercised about frustrations with dev tools, I think the problems with Xcode 4 are worse than you suggest. That's certainly the impression I get from others' comments in the twitterverse etc, though clearly that's hard to gauge, subject to lots of silliness, etc. But many really smart people have lost faith in Xcode.
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> I was an Xcode defender early on, being initially very pleased by its design clarity and consistency. But I've found myself ground down by time wasted by crashes, interaction design problems, and implementation infelicities. That all this comes from a *released* product from the richest company in the world makes it clear to me that something is deeply wrong with the Xcode 4 project as a whole. Hopefully Apple can do the rabbit-trick and somehow turn it around, but I need tools that work smoothly, right now.
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> For now my solution has been to surrender and use JetBrains' AppCode, which lacks surface elegance, and suffers from clutter, but is for the most part a pleasure to actually write code in.
Xcode is getting more and more complex with each release. The problem with more complex systems is that I feel at some point that "you're losing control" over it. Nobody really can understand it as a whole. There are just a bunch of engineers maintaining their own area and trying to get together so that all those parts work together. I think it's a bit the same in OS X, the system. There are so many subsystems that it feels a little bit out of hands. There are bugs and will always been bugs. For most users, it is OK but not all users exercise the same areas and the systems are getting so complex that there is a multitude of possibilities. When basing things like closing my MacBook Pro when Mail, iChat and Safari are open and it takes 10 seconds for the system to go to sleep, something is not right. I could (and I'm sure a lot of others) could list a multitude of annoying little problems with the system, as well as for Xcode. For those of us that have been in commercial software development, we know how it goes. You try to fix the most glaring bugs but you know that there are some that you won't be able to fix and the time to release a new update comes when it is stable for most people. That's how it is. Unfortunate a bit but I believe that's the truth in software development these days.
So, Xcode has problems. It will always have problems. Each time a new release is made available, I just hope that I can live with the new issues.
-Laurent.
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