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Re: ADC Select Membership


  • Subject: Re: ADC Select Membership
  • From: Scott Ellsworth <email@hidden>
  • Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 10:20:02 -0700


On Apr 26, 2005, at 9:52 PM, Shaun Wexler wrote:

On Apr 26, 2005, at 8:35 PM, Mark Munz wrote:
Truthfully, I've been very disappointed in Apple's seeding process. As a small developer who is paying $500, I feel totally left in the dark regarding seeds, in particular Tiger.

I have felt pretty well taken care of during the Tiger development cycle. Seeds were plentiful, and DTS/devbugs feedback was quite good.


Where I feel they really fell down completely was at release time.

And as it is, it looks like the GM is not the last seed we have (reports from people receiving Tiger already say it is 8a428), with no clues as to the differences.

Yep - hard to test your software against a version you never got. Heck, I have an rsync bug that rather matters to me, which may or may not have been fixed. Nobody is talking.


I hold some of the same sentiments. We certainly understand Apple's desire to prevent illegal distribution of major GM versions by those who'd break their NDA. Seeded developers should have received it at least a couple days ahead of the retailers!!!

Agreed - at the least, I should have had a copy on my doorstep on the 29th along with everyone else.


[...] I really feel disregarded by Apple when Joe-blow can order from Amazon or even the Apple Store and have a newer build than I have access to as a developer, which is especially relevant considering recent rdar's I filed. I likely have users running my app on a version of the OS which I can't even test against (unless I'd pre-ordered a retail version also, reducing my ADC benefit). ~Nice. :(

Agreed - or I could have downloaded a bittorrent stolen copy, perhaps with trojans pre-installed. As it is, I am discouraging my customers and clients from upgrading to Tiger until I can test my stuff with it. I do not want to do that, since I have found it quite righteous for the last few months, but I _can't_ put them at that risk.


I realize Cocoa-dev is not the best place for this rant. Any suggestions for a feedback channel to send it towards that is read?

I'm really questioning the value of the membership these days.
And yes, I'm lodging a complaint with ADC on this.

There are ups and downs from year to year, but altogether the benefits far exceed the expense.

I do agree - while I just said above that I was very unhappy, I am unhappy specifically with the Tiger rollout. The rest of the membership seems quite valuable. Realistically, we are not going to see another rollout like this until late 2006 or early 2007, so on the balance, I would still recommend coughing up the cash.


Scott
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