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Re: eci ISO Coated vs. Adobe Europe ISO Coated (was: Dumb question for european prepress specialists: Which profile?)
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Re: eci ISO Coated vs. Adobe Europe ISO Coated (was: Dumb question for european prepress specialists: Which profile?)


  • Subject: Re: eci ISO Coated vs. Adobe Europe ISO Coated (was: Dumb question for european prepress specialists: Which profile?)
  • From: Rolf Gierling <email@hidden>
  • Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 17:14:03 +0100

Klaus,

I am not really interested in what the "EuropeISOCoatedFOGRA27.icc" from Adobe
is or how it performs. The FOGRA or the ECI are the organisations that count
to printers. They believe in what is written in the Medienstandard Druck,
and it's written ISOcoated in there.


Maybe one of these profiles performs a little bit better than the other,
but does that really count if it introduces some "Convert to profile"?

Working as a colormanagement "teacher" for more than 9 years, it has been
difficult enough to decribe why we need AdobeRGB, sRGB, ColorMatchRGB
NTSC, ECIRGB and so on. I believe, none of my clients really got it, and it is
still interesting to see that the settings we made lasted for about 2 weeks until
they were gone to something else.


Most choose what they believe is fine, and do "Convert to profile" if they
find themself working together with other people with other settings.


Now the game goes on in european printing.
Euroscale Coated. Hard enough to tell someone that this profile really does not
have something in common with european printing conditions today.
EuropeISOCoatedFOGRA27? Is Quark the next to "invent" a new profile?


I wish that all that people would come together and agree to one standard profile,
one web-adress where to download it.
In the hope that all those graphics people out there wouldn't have to spend hours
in setting up their colormanagement workflow and in favour of high quality.


This is what Paul Schilliger is talking about. He is confused. And he is right to be so.

Rolf

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