Re: SWOPv2 is dead
Re: SWOPv2 is dead
- Subject: Re: SWOPv2 is dead
- From: Andrew Rodney <email@hidden>
- Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2015 13:24:59 -0700
> On Feb 28, 2015, at 12:50 PM, Roger Breton <email@hidden> wrote:
>
> What's the complain about, Andrew?
Customers that provide the wrong color space for output. It's apparently never the fault of that customer or the shop who receives it, it's Adobe. Hogwash.
> Do you know this to be the issue or is this speculation?
I know it's an issue because I've heard folks bitch about for years. Like how a default setting that doesn't have to ever be used is a problem should someone cluless used it when it's not the correct profile for conversions.
Your augmented seems to center on not the fact that users pick the wrong setting for what they need, it's that a default is there and they are uneducated and just pick it. If so, just tell the customer it's the wrong setting, provide the right one and thank them for providing the files as they should. Just like not sending a 1mb JPEG for a full cover reproduction. Or a grayscale document that's inteded for color output. I don't know why the last sticky setting in Image Size dialog is OK but the last used setting in Color Settings for CMYK is Adobe's fault for the incorrect conversion. User error is user error. Help the user.
> Oddly enough, the presumption for the fault always lie with the printer. Believe me, clients rarely for their mistakes.
Again, that's your problem with your clients. Either teach them the proper way to supply files or ignore what they send you and deal with out another way.
> I'm doing something about it! I caution people against the ills of SWOPv2 anytime I get the chance.
As you should IF and when SWOPV2 isn't the right target. You can fill SWOPV2 with ANY ICC profile name you wish that IS NOT the single proper conversion method.
Let's say Adobe changes the default profile from SWOPV2 to whatever YOU need for a CMYK conversion. But now some other shop does want V2 or anything other than the specification you want that happens to be the new default. They are back to the same issue you had, not the default, the inability for the customer to select the correct option.
Changing the default isn't going to make any meaningful difference in this one fact you keep ignoring: there's only one correct answer to pick for the output color space and the end user either selects or or they don't. If they don't, you either tell them the correct way to proceed of you don't and no matter what Adobe does, this will always be the case!
Andrew Rodney
http://www.digitaldog.net/
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