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Re: A "Why WebObjects" Site / Initial Thoughts Please
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Re: A "Why WebObjects" Site / Initial Thoughts Please


  • Subject: Re: A "Why WebObjects" Site / Initial Thoughts Please
  • From: Michael Henderson <email@hidden>
  • Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 09:51:36 -0700

Hi,
A couple of years ago, http://www.skymall.com was a WO site, now it appears to be a JSP site, Why?
I remember at my last WWDC Apple staff indicated that clients were coming back to WO after trying J2EE. Getting a line on these clients and their experience with WO would be a great start..


One important advocacy effort would be to develop some presentations for Java User Group meetings, particularly interactive
application development. EOModel -> D2W, EOModel -> D2JC, EOModel -> SOAP service (I offered to demo WO to some
members of a local JUG and got ZERO interest).


For anyone following the J2EE world there is a movement now to "lightweight" solutions (Struts, Spring, Hibernate) and O-R mapping has come into it's own.

On the technical front the changes I would like to see to WO:

1.Safe multithreading for EOF, servlet containers are multithreaded, the O-R layer should work in this environment.
(This may be done, last time I tried it
2. J2EE container integration
- EOF working with Datasources and connection pooling
- JMX management of WO app clusters (Almost every client I have had drops Monitor sooner or later for some homegrown
solution) - see http://mc4j.sourceforge.net/ for an open source JMX management console.
3. JDK collections, make them first class citizens drop NSArray, etc, quietly or make them subclasses of the JDK equivalents.
4. incorporate some of the AOP developments such as Hibernate's POJO enchancement so EOF can persist POJO's.


BTW. I'm evaluating Tapestry/Spring/Hibernate in Eclipse and the combination is not unpleasant. Spring in particular makes life easier. has anyone integrated Spring with WO?

Mike
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