Dov,
My apologies for sounding rude, but I'm a bit concerned. As I
mentioned in the past, I can appreciate your desire to push forward as
quickly as possible. Unfortunately, I feel as if you're venturing down
the same road as many of the other, more common, WebObjects sites out
there.
First, I've been on this list for over a year and nobody has mentioned
doing this type of thing. Last week I proposed the idea and began
doing research. Before I knew it, you jumped in, grabbed a domain
name, and started building the site. So, while it may sound like I am
whining about it, I would like to state that I think it's a bit rude
that you pretty much just started building and completely ignored the
guy that started it all.
Second, while, again, I like how anxious you are, but you are missing
the primary feature that most everyone has asked for (and what I would
personally like to see): a community involved effort instead of a solo
project. Instead, you've already got sections of the site being built
and going live "later this week."
Third, going back to the features again, I spent DAYS chatting with,
talking to, and exchanging emails with hundreds of developers. I then
compiled the results into two solid pages and gave them to the group.
Again, instead of implementing any of them, you have gone off built a
feature list with virtually no similarity to that list nor any other
recommendations that have been posted to the group.
If you are going to go off and build the site without listening to the
group as a whole, then, in my opinion, don't bother. If you are going
to release anything that does not cosmetically look highly professional
then, again, don't bother. As several people on the site so eloquently
put it, if it's just going to be another WebObjects site, then we (or
you) are wasting the time in creating it. As mostly everyone pointed
out, what we have been discussing is no simple challenge; it must be
done correctly and professionally the first time out of the gate.
In short, the opinions of the mass are more important, in this
situation, that that of the individual. So, either get with the goal
we were shooting for or... well, as I said before, don't bother.
R/S
Ryan
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On Jul 7, 2004, at 9:22 PM, Dov Rosenberg wrote:
I am collecting information for the site right now. We should be able
to
turn the site live later this week. It will be an evolving project
with
capabilities being added as the site matures. Please forward any white
papers you have including your contact information so we can make sure
everyone gets credits.
For the initial launch we should have the following functionality
available:
* user registration - this will be used if someone want to contribute
content to the site
* case studies - this will provide some real world examples on how
WebObjects has been used in various projects. The case study format is
modeled after the format Gartner Group uses.
* FAQ - the FAQ will be used primarily for high level questions about
webobjects - not technical ones - save those for the regular mailing
lists.
* white papers - this will feature the ability to upload a Word, PDF
or
other types of documents in addition to manually creating a white
paper. The
papers can cover any WebObjects related topics from how-to's to what
was I
thinking
* bios- this is an area where developers can post some information
about
themselves - linked to the case studies and white papers so people can
get
more info about you. We are undecided about providing emails due to
the high
spam factor - suggestions are welcomed.
I think this will cover most of the things I have been seeing on the
news
groups. Please let me know if I missed anything critical for the first
stages.
I am looking for volunteers to help manage the site. If you are
interested
please drop me a private note so I can set you up as an administrator.
--
Dov Rosenberg
Conviveon Corporation
http://www.conviveon.com
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